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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The guy appears to be a Goth, and was possibly dressed funny and had silly piercings. I bet that was part of the motivation for the attack.
    This almost sounds like you are trying to justify it.....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    This almost sounds like you are trying to justify it.....
    Well, tolerance only goes so far you see. Some can tolerate different skin color but not different lifestyles. It doesn't mean we have to agree with them... but apparently goths are asking for it, or maybe it was because of the piercings and that was asking for it. At least that's what I read in Thunder's post.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, tolerance only goes so far you see. Some can tolerate different skin color but not different lifestyles. It doesn't mean we have to agree with them... but apparently goths are asking for it, or maybe it was because of the piercings and that was asking for it. At least that's what I read in Thunder's post.
    No, that's what you projected onto Thunder's post.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No, that's what you projected onto Thunder's post.
    Not when I read it in English.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No, that's what you projected onto Thunder's post.
    Well then..... I guess I have to ask the obvious question... *clears throat*

    WHAT THE **** DOES IT MATTER WHAT HE WAS WEARING OR WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    there... I feel better now...
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Not when I read it in English.
    Thunder was saying that his "gothness" played a part in the guy getting beaten up and assaulted. At least from what I'm reading, nowhere did he imply that the dude asked for it.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well then..... I guess I have to ask the obvious question... *clears throat*

    WHAT THE **** DOES IT MATTER WHAT HE WAS WEARING OR WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    there... I feel better now...
    Where does he say that it "matters"? All I saw was speculation on motive. I didn't realize speculating on motive was the same thing as "not tolerating people of different lifestyles". Oh well - better tell all the detectives and lawyers out there.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Goths look silly, draw attention to themselves based on their clothes, make-up, and piercings.

    that may have had something to do with his being attacked.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well then..... I guess I have to ask the obvious question... *clears throat*

    WHAT THE **** DOES IT MATTER WHAT HE WAS WEARING OR WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    there... I feel better now...
    I dunno, crazy people beat the crap out of people who are different from them? Not sayin it's right, but it happens.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Not when I read it in English.
    Well the post you quoted was far shorter than your interpretation of it and it didn't include any of the arguments that you attributed to it, so it's safe to say that you were projecting.

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