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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Gee, cutting union jobs doesn't show that politicians aren't beholden to unions?

    I think the word "beholden" means something other than what you think it means

    And I'm not surprised to see you thinking that I said anything about dems or repubs. The heavily partisan think everything is about party.
    sometimes other factors overcome union support. are you claiming you aren't "partisan"?



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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or maybe he thinks the "due process" idea is also useful in other areas, like when it comes to an employee possibly being fired for spurious reasons so to prevent that maybe somebody should stick up for that employee just in case.
    Dude, for real, how far up inside your ass do you reach to pull out **** like this? You have no due process rights with regards to employment!!! It's a right to work state, meaning you have a right to work for anyone, and anyone has a right to fire you. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A JOB!! LOL Damn dude, you aren't this dense. I know you aren't.

    Due process exists in our LEGAL system, not in our employment system!!! Your boss can walk in (unless you are part of a union, which is the problem) to your office tomorrow and tell you you are fired and not give a reason. Or give a stupid reason (hair too short, legs too long, ass too big) as long as it's not discriminating on race, gender, etc, you're outta there. Nothing you can do but cry to the moon. You do NOT have a right to a job, and when you FINALLY realize this, I would assume your replies with regards to employment would show a little more education on the subject.

    If you want to pay someone to try to get you your job back that's on you, but damn the person who has someone paid for by the taxpayer to fight for a non-existent right to a job. That's downright criminal behavior.

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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    I would like to see evidence of these charges against teacher unions. So far all we get is pompous pontifications
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    links to verifiable evidence are needed to back up your opinion.
    There is a great thing called Google. I was a staff member for a GOP councilman years ago. I am speaking from first hand knowledge.



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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sometimes other factors overcome union support. are you claiming you aren't "partisan"?
    So politicians aren't beholden to unions

    Thanks for contradicting yourself without realizing it
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Dude, for real, how far up inside your ass do you reach to pull out **** like this? You have no due process rights with regards to employment!!! It's a right to work state, meaning you have a right to work for anyone, and anyone has a right to fire you. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A JOB!! LOL Damn dude, you aren't this dense. I know you aren't.

    Due process exists in our LEGAL system, not in our employment system!!! Your boss can walk in (unless you are part of a union, which is the problem) to your office tomorrow and tell you you are fired and not give a reason. Or give a stupid reason (hair too short, legs too long, ass too big) as long as it's not discriminating on race, gender, etc, you're outta there. Nothing you can do but cry to the moon. You do NOT have a right to a job, and when you FINALLY realize this, I would assume your replies with regards to employment would show a little more education on the subject.

    If you want to pay someone to try to get you your job back that's on you, but damn the person who has someone paid for by the taxpayer to fight for a non-existent right to a job. That's downright criminal behavior.
    Looks like someone doesn't understand contract law.

    The law doesn't require any employer to give their employees due process before terminating them, but if the employer signs a legally binding contract to do so, they MUST comply with those terms.
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one is held under a gun and forced to agree to anything.
    tell it to the folks in detroit

    Wall St. Journal: Detroit Moves Against Unions

    again, you don't have the facts

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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There is a great thing called Google. I was a staff member for a GOP councilman years ago. I am speaking from first hand knowledge.
    The plural of "anecdote" is not "statistic"
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There is a great thing called Google. I was a staff member for a GOP councilman years ago. I am speaking from first hand knowledge.
    You should use it then.

    Sorry, but in debate, personal anecdotes which cannot be verified are useless and not even considered. Its too easy to fabricate stuff like that.
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    ...I believe whatever my trusted news source tells me and have never gone to the teachers' organizations and teachers' unions to hear their side of the story because I love that privatization, conservative, bad teacher myth plate of BS.
    Any employees should be fire-able for any reason. Or no reason at all. No hearings. No due process. Pack up your bags and get out.
    No one has a right to a job.

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