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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    An irrelevancy *and* a straw man!!!!

    Who is arguing that union busting is OK when a Dem does it? Or is it that you don't want to address the way the middle class has suffered because of union busting?
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Same as any other. Public workers are as concerned with working condition, wages, and compensation as the private sector. No matter who pays, the job is still ebing done, and all employees have the right to seek just compensation. If we don't like how well our leaders negotiate, find new leaders.

    in a private sector negotiation the bargaining is at least honest

    in public sector-often those "bargaining" with the unions have been put into office by those unions



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in a private sector negotiation the bargaining is at least honest

    in public sector-often those "bargaining" with the unions have been put into office by those unions
    You do knwo business puts in as many or more. I'm sorry, but that argument really doesn't hold water.

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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do knwo business puts in as many or more.
    I wouldn't be so sure of that
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do knwo business puts in as many or more. I'm sorry, but that argument really doesn't hold water.
    how can you dispute that? in union heavy areas the politicians are often beholden to the unions



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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure of that
    I'm fairly sure politicians have taken a lot of money from business and that money matters.

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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how can you dispute that? in union heavy areas the politicians are often beholden to the unions
    In NYS and NYC, we have politicians that are cutting union jobs, including teachers. Your claim is fiction.
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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how can you dispute that? in union heavy areas the politicians are often beholden to the unions
    And business. And anyone who gives them money. Shouldn't you be angery at our leaders? Isn't this attack of unions not only misplaced, but inconsistent without anger over all those who might have bought our leaders.

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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In NYS and NYC, we have politicians that are cutting union jobs, including teachers. Your claim is fiction.
    wow one area proves everything I said wrong? LOL, in Cincinnati, the City Council has been mainly dem for most of the last 30 years and the teachers union that runs the Cincinnati Public Schools is a major donor to almost all the last half dozen mayors and most of those in the majority. city council ultimately bargains with the unions concerning the Cincinnati Public Schools

    How long has NYC being cutting union jobs?



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    Re: More than 200 D.C. teachers fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And business. And anyone who gives them money. Shouldn't you be angery at our leaders? Isn't this attack of unions not only misplaced, but inconsistent without anger over all those who might have bought our leaders.


    the issue was what good does a public union create given that its members are under the full protection of all of the relevant laws. If the public has decided that a teacher should make say 45K a year and the union demands 50K is not the Union acting contrary to the wishes of the public?



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