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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Sadly, the Republican party is the worst thing that could happen to the Tea Party.
    That and poor education.

    House Republicans delay vote on Boehner debt plan - The Washington Post

    House members have just seven days to raise the debt ceiling before next Tuesday’s deadline, and the latest move came after budget analysts said the plan endorsed by Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) would only create $850 billion in government savings, rather than the sought-after $1.2 trillion.
    The Republicans have gone from the party of fiscal conservatives with a nack for economics to the party of childish religious zealots that cant add and dont understand the basics of economics. Just love how the Boehner plan gets exposed for not cutting enough...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Sadly, the Republican party is the worst thing that could happen to the Tea Party.
    vice versa
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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    who on this site still believes that the solution that Obama/Geithner called for earlier in the year. An increase in the debt ceiling with no cuts in spending would have been the best path for the country. What would have happened to our credit rating if congress did what the administration called for.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Wow! That's quite an opinion.
    It's the truth, backed up by historical data--the largest increases in the US debt occurred during GOP administrations, caused by military spending (arms race, Iraq War). . .

    . . .look at the graph. Note the biggest spikes occurred during the Reagan-GHWB years and the dumbya years.

    The Reagan-GHWB debt can be excused as a result of the need to compete with Soviet Union in the Cold War.

    But the dumbya deficits cannot be excused.

    I know this comes as a surprise to you considering FoxNEWS and Sean Hannity never mentioned it.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    who on this site still believes that the solution that Obama/Geithner called for earlier in the year. An increase in the debt ceiling with no cuts in spending would have been the best path for the country. What would have happened to our credit rating if congress did what the administration called for.
    The solution is very obviously to simply raise the debt ceiling without preconditions, just as it's been done over a 100 times before. Everyone on both sides understands that spending has to be curtailed in the mid-to-long term, but the smart way to approach that is not to try to patch together some kind of Frankenstein's monster under a false deadline.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The solution is very obviously to simply raise the debt ceiling without preconditions, just as it's been done over a 100 times before. Everyone on both sides understands that spending has to be curtailed in the mid-to-long term, but the smart way to approach that is not to try to patch together some kind of Frankenstein's monster under a false deadline.
    What we need is both parties to remember the lost art of compromise, and get to work doing their job.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    If Obama had any brains, he would simply call for a policy of freezing the debt ceiling without increasing taxes on the middle class.

    Because then guess who would have to pay up?

    Doing that would force the GOP into wanting to increase the debt ceiling, because the GOP can't make its rich sponsors pay more taxes, so they would have to tell the middle class to shoulder the extra burden, making them unpopular. Since that's not a politically viable option, the GOP would have no other choice than to advocate raising the debt,

    which, obviously, is what the GOP has done for years.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The solution is very obviously to simply raise the debt ceiling without preconditions, just as it's been done over a 100 times before. Everyone on both sides understands that spending has to be curtailed in the mid-to-long term, but the smart way to approach that is not to try to patch together some kind of Frankenstein's monster under a false deadline.
    Look where that solution has got us. It's not going to happen this time.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    If Obama had any brains, he would simply call for a policy of freezing the debt ceiling without increasing taxes on the middle class.

    Because then guess who would have to pay up?

    Doing that would force the GOP into wanting to increase the debt ceiling, because the GOP can't make its rich sponsors pay more taxes, so they would have to tell the middle class to shoulder the extra burden, making them unpopular. Since that's not a politically viable option, the GOP would have no other choice than to advocate raising the debt,

    which, obviously, is what the GOP has done for years.
    Those are the same sponsers that also back the Dems. This right here is the problem. So many wanting to blame one side while refusing to own up that it's both parties that are at fault.

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    Re: Tea party to GOP: We could make 'examples' of you over debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It's the truth, backed up by historical data--the largest increases in the US debt occurred during GOP administrations, caused by military spending (arms race, Iraq War). . .

    . . .look at the graph. Note the biggest spikes occurred during the Reagan-GHWB years and the dumbya years.

    The Reagan-GHWB debt can be excused as a result of the need to compete with Soviet Union in the Cold War.

    But the dumbya deficits cannot be excused.

    I know this comes as a surprise to you considering FoxNEWS and Sean Hannity never mentioned it.
    I know you guys keep forgetting the lies of the Dems regarding their promises to cut expenses when they did not do so, but that's okay, some of us do. Also, I think your nice little chart is out-of-date. You see, there was an election in 2010. That election put many new GOP members in Congress. This is not your mother's GOP.

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