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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    keep talking circles and deflecting
    flying and driving are totally different and that fact isnt going to change because you simply dont like it LOL

    Legality is all that matters in this debate, if you want to THINK its wrong or too much fine, I might agree with you but that would only make it your opinion or a shared opinion nothing more
    It was once legal to tell passengers that they had to ride in the back of the bus. Obviously they were cool with this as they got on the bus anyway.

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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes. That's what I was getting at.
    So there are no justifiable reasons to search many of the people that are searched other than an unwillingness to discuss the facts of the situation. Yes, I'd agree with that.

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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It was once legal to tell passengers that they had to ride in the back of the bus. Obviously they were cool with this as they got on the bus anyway.
    correct that was legal at one time
    your opinion on whether they were cool with it or not is meaningless to any of my statements though nor is it something I am "arguing" about the TSA

    I dont like the TSA but ill never say silly things like they violated the 4th or that flying is equal to driving because theres no logic to support such false claims
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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I agree it is "bull****" but its not against the law nor does it violate the constitution in any way
    Not saying anything about the law on this statement, although it can be argued and in the eyes of our founding fathers it is a violations of the 4th amendment. Although I mainly address the organization, where in the law or constitution does it permit the U.S. Government to create a organization that allows a entity of the government to search it citizens without cause or due process. I believe that this need to go through the legislative process and for this to happen it need to be petitioned before the people. So I will ask a question, would this be acceptable to our founding fathers if this situation existed back in their day.

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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It was once legal to tell passengers that they had to ride in the back of the bus. Obviously they were cool with this as they got on the bus anyway.
    I think they more or less tolerated it until 1964 and beyond.

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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Not saying anything about the law on this statement, although it can be argued and in the eyes of our founding fathers it is a violations of the 4th amendment. Although I mainly address the organization, where in the law or constitution does it permit the U.S. Government to create a organization that allows a entity of the government to search it citizens without cause or due process. I believe that this need to go through the legislative process and for this to happen it need to be petitioned before the people. So I will ask a question, would this be acceptable to our founding fathers if this situation existed back in their day.

    once you reference the constitution you are talking about legality

    and your question is meaningless since nobody could answer it with anything more than a guess not to mention our founding fathers accepting something also wouldnt change the laws. History shows there were many different things they didnt agree on or were "accepting" of but it was still legal/illegal
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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

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    How about common sense as a security measure.
    Who is SHE to get upset? Like the agent wanted to pat down a 94 y/o woman? Eeew!

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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes, but if they only search middle-eastern men...they're profiling...
    I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not... I favor profiling, personally.
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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    it would only be hypocritically if they were the SAME they are not LOL
    if you understood law and reality choosing to take part in a said service with no force, that has to travel through government controlled airspace where you consent to being searched is nothing like walking down the street or driving a car and searches being forced so you can move through free land in your own property LMAO

    they are entirely different things all together to anybody honest and objective lol
    Legality and reality trump your opinions buddy... sorry.
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    Re: 94-year-old upset by TSA pat down

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    correct that was legal at one time
    your opinion on whether they were cool with it or not is meaningless to any of my statements though nor is it something I am "arguing" about the TSA

    I dont like the TSA but ill never say silly things like they violated the 4th or that flying is equal to driving because theres no logic to support such false claims
    I bet back then they had some guy saying, "legality and reality or the Constitution back Separate But Equal due to the Plessy decision, I may not like it, but it is legal and fine LMAO... too bad all you have is your opinion Mr. King! LMAO!"

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