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How can the tea "party" not be too embedded with the republican party when they are republicans? If the Tea party was truly an actual party then they would have actually formed their own party not be republicans pretending to not be republicans even though they still carry the big R next to their name.

Hey i like this conservative. He "gets it"
 
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Your one chart kinda confuses me .. cause according to liberals like yourself .. tax hikes on the rich are suppose to increase what they pay in taxes ..

Yet according to your now and then dot graph .. after Reagan tac cuts the millionares tax was 47.7% ….. then after clinton raised them to 39% their tax rate actually was reduced to 36.4%??

you're own data is saying that Clinton cut the taxes to the rich by 8.7% over what Reagan did . While Bush only cut the top rate by 4% ….. so you own data shows that Clinton “cut” the tax on the rich by more then Bush.
 
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Its funny how the right-wingers like to use that map of the United States....what they don't tell you is that 80% of the PEOPLE of this country live in the blue colored areas. Most of the red flyover areas are sparsley populated.

Honestly.

If trees and rocks could vote, the Republicans would have a lock on elections.
 
Hey i like this conservative. He "gets it"

Jamesrage doesn't appear to actually get it at all. Maybe in his neck of the woods it might reflect that, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that the local Tea Party in my area is full of independants, and yes, about 10% Democrats.. Democrats that happened to vote for Obama. IN the three meetings I've attended, the focus of meetings is completely bi-partisan, and we discuss the issues, not party politics.


Tim-
 
This 'movement' has already peaked and this is evidence of that fact.
 
How can the tea "party" not be too embedded with the republican party when they are republicans? If the Tea party was truly an actual party then they would have actually formed their own party not be republicans pretending to not be republicans even though they still carry the big R next to their name.

That is 100% spot on. The 'party' part of their name is a true oxymoron. Too bad George Carlin is not around to use that one.
 
Jamesrage doesn't appear to actually get it at all. Maybe in his neck of the woods it might reflect that, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that the local Tea Party in my area is full of independants, and yes, about 10% Democrats.. Democrats that happened to vote for Obama. IN the three meetings I've attended, the focus of meetings is completely bi-partisan, and we discuss the issues, not party politics.


Tim-


How many of the of the Tea "Party" candidates are independent or democrat? The voters may be a mix of independents, democrats and republicans but it still does not change the fact that all the so called tea party candidates are republicans. If I am wrong then please show me how I am wrong.
 
Its funny how the right-wingers like to use that map of the United States....what they don't tell you is that 80% of the PEOPLE of this country live in the blue colored areas. Most of the red flyover areas are sparsley populated.

Source?

80%, not even close. Each house district has relatively the same population and since Republicans control the house 242-193 I would say it is pretty safe to assume that most Americans live in a Republican controlled district. Is the margin as big as that map might make it seem? No, but your claim is probably further from the truth.
 
So much for the "grass roots" huh?:shrug:

More puzzling is for anyone that "Likes" the OP, seems to indicate their approval of irresponsible government. That's what the Tea Party is trying to end. It all goes back to whom you want to fail, irresponsible government or responsible government.
 

We already know why the income tax curve is trending almost straight, while the payroll tax is trending upward. It's called social security and medicare.
 
Also, there are the massive cuts to education, strengthening the barrier blocking social mobility. And the constant moves to privatize... everything. Allowing the wealthy to own and control everyone's finances, their health, the housing industry, the food industry, the entertainment industry. All of it. Massive deregulation takes control from the many and hands it to the few. Oh, and opposing any steps towards ensuring a living wage.

Seriously, do you not know that these things happen?

Could you prove that there have been "massive" cuts in education? During the Bush years we had the largest spending bill for education in U.S. history. Do you understand the term massive? Massive is like cutting by 50%. That didn't happen. And not increasing spending is not the same as cutting.
 
How many of the of the Tea "Party" candidates are independent or democrat? The voters may be a mix of independents, democrats and republicans but it still does not change the fact that all the so called tea party candidates are republicans. If I am wrong then please show me how I am wrong.

In the Rochester chapter, there are approx 370 members, and some stragglers. of those, maybe half are registered republicans.

Tim-
 
How can the tea "party" not be too embedded with the republican party when they are republicans? If the Tea party was truly an actual party then they would have actually formed their own party not be republicans pretending to not be republicans even though they still carry the big R next to their name.

Totally disagree. There is a difference between Republicans and a lot of conservatives. We have people on both sides, left and right, who feel they have no other choice but to vote either Democrat and Republican. I have plenty of problems with the Republican Party but by comparison I have much more problems with the Democrat Party. Many, many people would love to have a viable option to the corrupt two party system that is perpetuated by forces in the media for both sides. The Tea Pary at it's core were protesting against government. Republicans polticians were a target of their rath too. It was a mistake to think that the Tea Party could work within the Republican Party to effect the kind of change they wanted. You and many people just buy into what you are told by the enemies of movements like this. This was no mainstream Republican movement like it is now.
 
Its funny how the right-wingers like to use that map of the United States....what they don't tell you is that 80% of the PEOPLE of this country live in the blue colored areas. Most of the red flyover areas are sparsley populated.

Ever heard of state's rights and "tyranny of the majority" that latter of which is a battle cry of many liberals when it comes to not getting what they want. And I could also point out that in many of the blue states the majority is not that great. There are still a lot of conservatives in those states. The popular vote in recent elections bare that out.
 
How many of the of the Tea "Party" candidates are independent or democrat? The voters may be a mix of independents, democrats and republicans but it still does not change the fact that all the so called tea party candidates are republicans. If I am wrong then please show me how I am wrong.

You could run as an independent but then you would be ignored and demonized by the media. The Tea Party sold themselves out because they wanted faster results and immediate attention to their issues. They were seduced by the idea of immediate gratification. I'll bet a lot of them thought they could take over the Republican Party. That was a mistaken notion.
 
Tell us again how the Tea Party is dying off.......when Obama gets his ass tossed to the curb in 2012......
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Please tell me how Obama gets tossed to the curb when....

1) Republicans slice the throat of America on Aug. 2.

2) When the extemist Bachmann seems to be the party's choice.

Want to dump Obama? Here's how.

1) Raise the debt ceiling and pay our debts. THEN work to reduce spending.

2) Get a candidate in the race that is not bat**** crazy.

Obama is dumpable, but can only be dumped by a reasonable campaign, and reasonable people.
 
Jamesrage doesn't appear to actually get it at all. Maybe in his neck of the woods it might reflect that, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that the local Tea Party in my area is full of independants, and yes, about 10% Democrats.. Democrats that happened to vote for Obama. IN the three meetings I've attended, the focus of meetings is completely bi-partisan, and we discuss the issues, not party politics.


Tim-

That's weird, I remember listening in on a Tea Party rally near Andrews St (I used to work in the First Federal building), and hearing basically racism, and anti-Democrat rhetoric. It was all about "taking our country back". Taking it back from "them". Them being gays, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and women.
 
That's weird, I remember listening in on a Tea Party rally near Andrews St (I used to work in the First Federal building), and hearing basically racism, and anti-Democrat rhetoric. It was all about "taking our country back". Taking it back from "them". Them being gays, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and women.

Oh please??? I haven't heard anything like that from my local party, or anything NOT coming from the lame stream.. LOL

You're either lying or in poor company..


Tim-
 
In the Rochester chapter, there are approx 370 members, and some stragglers. of those, maybe half are registered republicans.

Tim-

Is that how many actual Tea Party candidates that democrats and independents or is that voters?
 
Close, but not quite. According to recent polling, the republican candidate that would beat Obama would be "any of the above." But thanks for playing!

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Really?

Because Romney is the only one who appears to present a challenge at the moment.

And he probably won't make it through the primary thanks to the crazies that rile up the base.
 
You could run as an independent but then you would be ignored and demonized by the media. The Tea Party sold themselves out because they wanted faster results and immediate attention to their issues. They were seduced by the idea of immediate gratification. I'll bet a lot of them thought they could take over the Republican Party. That was a mistaken notion.

Is why every so-called tea party candidate is a republican and not a democrat or 3rd party candidate? The whole Tea Party thing is nothing more than a scam to get people to still vote for republicans.
 
There is a difference between Republicans and a lot of conservatives.

I agree with that. That is why I was not exited at all when Scott Brown got elected. Because a republican in Massachusetts is not the same as one in Oklahoma and probably couldn't even run a democrat in Oklahoma.


We have people on both sides, left and right, who feel they have no other choice but to vote either Democrat and Republican.


This is the fault of the media and the mentality that people have the view that republicans are good and democrats are evil or that democrats are good and republicans are evil


I have plenty of problems with the Republican Party but by comparison I have much more problems with the Democrat Party. Many, many people would love to have a viable option to the corrupt two party system that is perpetuated by forces in the media for both sides. The Tea Pary at it's core were protesting against government.Republicans polticians were a target of their rath too. It was a mistake to think that the Tea Party could work within the Republican Party to effect the kind of change they wanted.

I heard several times that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You do not get rid of a two party monopoly by repeatedly voting for democrats and republicans.

You and many people just buy into what you are told by the enemies of movements like this. This was no mainstream Republican movement like it is now.

I have bought into nothing by these people. I do not listen to idiots who call tea party members racists,bigots, idiots, "tea baggers" or any other lie or name.People who do this sort of crap have no credibility. Most likely since I am conservative I probably share a lot of views with tea party members, I just do not buy the idea they are actually party or separate party.
 
Oh please??? I haven't heard anything like that from my local party, or anything NOT coming from the lame stream.. LOL

You're either lying or in poor company..


Tim-

No, I mean I stood there on the corner during my break and listened to them say those things. I was there.
 
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