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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

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    We already know why the income tax curve is trending almost straight, while the payroll tax is trending upward. It's called social security and medicare.
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Also, there are the massive cuts to education, strengthening the barrier blocking social mobility. And the constant moves to privatize... everything. Allowing the wealthy to own and control everyone's finances, their health, the housing industry, the food industry, the entertainment industry. All of it. Massive deregulation takes control from the many and hands it to the few. Oh, and opposing any steps towards ensuring a living wage.

    Seriously, do you not know that these things happen?
    Could you prove that there have been "massive" cuts in education? During the Bush years we had the largest spending bill for education in U.S. history. Do you understand the term massive? Massive is like cutting by 50%. That didn't happen. And not increasing spending is not the same as cutting.

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How many of the of the Tea "Party" candidates are independent or democrat? The voters may be a mix of independents, democrats and republicans but it still does not change the fact that all the so called tea party candidates are republicans. If I am wrong then please show me how I am wrong.
    In the Rochester chapter, there are approx 370 members, and some stragglers. of those, maybe half are registered republicans.

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How can the tea "party" not be too embedded with the republican party when they are republicans? If the Tea party was truly an actual party then they would have actually formed their own party not be republicans pretending to not be republicans even though they still carry the big R next to their name.
    Totally disagree. There is a difference between Republicans and a lot of conservatives. We have people on both sides, left and right, who feel they have no other choice but to vote either Democrat and Republican. I have plenty of problems with the Republican Party but by comparison I have much more problems with the Democrat Party. Many, many people would love to have a viable option to the corrupt two party system that is perpetuated by forces in the media for both sides. The Tea Pary at it's core were protesting against government. Republicans polticians were a target of their rath too. It was a mistake to think that the Tea Party could work within the Republican Party to effect the kind of change they wanted. You and many people just buy into what you are told by the enemies of movements like this. This was no mainstream Republican movement like it is now.

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its funny how the right-wingers like to use that map of the United States....what they don't tell you is that 80% of the PEOPLE of this country live in the blue colored areas. Most of the red flyover areas are sparsley populated.
    Ever heard of state's rights and "tyranny of the majority" that latter of which is a battle cry of many liberals when it comes to not getting what they want. And I could also point out that in many of the blue states the majority is not that great. There are still a lot of conservatives in those states. The popular vote in recent elections bare that out.

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How many of the of the Tea "Party" candidates are independent or democrat? The voters may be a mix of independents, democrats and republicans but it still does not change the fact that all the so called tea party candidates are republicans. If I am wrong then please show me how I am wrong.
    You could run as an independent but then you would be ignored and demonized by the media. The Tea Party sold themselves out because they wanted faster results and immediate attention to their issues. They were seduced by the idea of immediate gratification. I'll bet a lot of them thought they could take over the Republican Party. That was a mistaken notion.

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Tell us again how the Tea Party is dying off.......when Obama gets his ass tossed to the curb in 2012......
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    Please tell me how Obama gets tossed to the curb when....

    1) Republicans slice the throat of America on Aug. 2.

    2) When the extemist Bachmann seems to be the party's choice.

    Want to dump Obama? Here's how.

    1) Raise the debt ceiling and pay our debts. THEN work to reduce spending.

    2) Get a candidate in the race that is not bat**** crazy.

    Obama is dumpable, but can only be dumped by a reasonable campaign, and reasonable people.
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Jamesrage doesn't appear to actually get it at all. Maybe in his neck of the woods it might reflect that, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that the local Tea Party in my area is full of independants, and yes, about 10% Democrats.. Democrats that happened to vote for Obama. IN the three meetings I've attended, the focus of meetings is completely bi-partisan, and we discuss the issues, not party politics.


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    That's weird, I remember listening in on a Tea Party rally near Andrews St (I used to work in the First Federal building), and hearing basically racism, and anti-Democrat rhetoric. It was all about "taking our country back". Taking it back from "them". Them being gays, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and women.
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That's weird, I remember listening in on a Tea Party rally near Andrews St (I used to work in the First Federal building), and hearing basically racism, and anti-Democrat rhetoric. It was all about "taking our country back". Taking it back from "them". Them being gays, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and women.
    Oh please??? I haven't heard anything like that from my local party, or anything NOT coming from the lame stream.. LOL

    You're either lying or in poor company..


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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    In the Rochester chapter, there are approx 370 members, and some stragglers. of those, maybe half are registered republicans.

    Tim-
    Is that how many actual Tea Party candidates that democrats and independents or is that voters?
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