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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    yep Clinton raised taxes .. cut defense spending to the bone ..... and only raised out debt another 1.5 trillion dollars .. . so we've already seen that raising taxes wasn't enough .. haven't we in fact ... . I seem to remember one of your great graphs .. .when it was shown that the rich actually paid less after his increases .. you should remember it cause you posted the graph showing it.

    here it is http://assets.motherjones.com/politi...-taxrate_3.png....... showing where after the Reagan tax cuts ......and the Clinton tax increases ... they actually paid less after Clinton's increases then after Reagan's tax cuts ... so one could say that Clinton did more for the rich then Reagan did
    Under Clinton, military spending increased. And I remember the graph. You misunderstood or misremembered it. It doesn't show the rich paying less taxes after the increase. Read the title of the graph again
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Under Clinton, military spending increased. And I remember the graph. You misunderstood or misremembered it. It doesn't show the rich paying less taxes after the increase. Read the title of the graph again
    okay here it is ...



    Now explain to me in the top graph .. .where I'm mis-understanding what it says and that the rate on millionaires didn't drop under Clinton .... oh I sorry I meant before the Bush tax cuts I guess they didn't want to mention Clinton's tax increase and reduction of tax the rich paid

    Sheeez in fact .. looking closer at the bottom graph ... it shows the share of corporate income tax going up after those nasty tax cuts of Bush's .. now how can that be ?? climbing every year until after 2006 ..... now what could have happened in late in 2006 ... that would suddenly cause them to start dropping off ??? lets see corporate taxes rising under Bush .. . well above anything in the Clinton administration ?? Why that bastard Bush making Corporations pay more .. . how dare he .. But it is nice of you to share this with us
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    yep Clinton raised taxes .. cut defense spending to the bone ..... and only raised out debt another 1.5 trillion dollars .. . so we've already seen that raising taxes wasn't enough .. haven't we in fact ... . I seem to remember one of your great graphs .. .when it was shown that the rich actually paid less after his increases .. you should remember it cause you posted the graph showing it.

    here it is http://assets.motherjones.com/politi...-taxrate_3.png....... showing where after the Reagan tax cuts ......and the Clinton tax increases ... they actually paid less after Clinton's increases then after Reagan's tax cuts ... so one could say that Clinton did more for the rich then Reagan did
    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    okay here it is ...



    Now explain to me in the top graph .. .where I'm mis-understanding what it says and that the rate on millionaires didn't drop under Clinton .... oh I sorry I meant before the Bush tax cuts I guess they didn't want to mention Clinton's tax increase and reduction of tax the rich paid
    I'm not here to educate you. If someone doesn't understand a set of #'s put into pictorial form, then I doubt that using words to explain will help.

    The graphs are pretty clear. The labels say exactly what they're graphing. Your misreading of these graphs does not say reflect inaccuracies in the graph.

    Sheeez in fact .. looking closer at the bottom graph ... it shows the share of corporate income tax going up after those nasty tax cuts of Bush's .. now how can that be ?? climbing every year until after 2006 ..... now what could have happened in late in 2006 ... that would suddenly cause them to start dropping off ??? lets see corporate taxes rising under Bush .. . well above anything in the Clinton administration ??
    If you reduce the income tax rate on the highest earners and increase the payroll tax, then of course a lower share of all taxes paid will come from the income tax


    Why that bastard Bush making Corporations pay more .. . how dare he .. But it is nice of you to share this with us
    You are still misreading the graph.
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm not here to educate you. If someone doesn't understand a set of #'s put into pictorial form, then I doubt that using words to explain will help.

    The graphs are pretty clear. The labels say exactly what they're graphing. Your misreading of these graphs does not say reflect inaccuracies in the graph.



    If you reduce the income tax rate on the highest earners and increase the payroll tax, then of course a lower share of all taxes paid will come from the income tax




    You are still misreading the graph.
    And I'm not here to be educated by idiots ….. and your right .. the graphs say what they say .. it's not my fault they aren't saying what you want them to say …

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Under Clinton, military spending increased. And I remember the graph. You misunderstood or misremembered it. It doesn't show the rich paying less taxes after the increase. Read the title of the graph again
    Military spending increased ???


    not according to this chart ... .but then again we don't want facts to get in the way do we

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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Military spending increased ???


    not according to this chart ... .but then again we don't want facts to get in the way do we
    "Massive spending cuts" is what you said. Your own chart proves you wrong

    And again, you have misread a chart. The chart measures 2012 dollars, not actual dollars, and it doesn't include all military spending. Again, it says so right on the chart
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    sangha, the first thing i would point out is that you really shouldn't be harping on "reasonable discussion" when you lie about the tea party, lie about you position, call them tea baggers, who have tea "tantrums". It looks rather hypocritical. Furthermore you claim that the tea party does not reject racists it sees. I posted a link showing just the opposite. Did you miss it or are you once again practicing deciet?


    Pashendale, we don't beliebe you, your feinged outrage is irrelevant.'in no instance is there a requirment for you to be believed.
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    sangha, the first thing i would point out is that you really shouldn't be harping on "reasonable discussion" when you lie about the tea party, lie about you position, call them tea baggers, who have tea "tantrums". It looks rather hypocritical. Furthermore you claim that the tea party does not reject racists it sees. I posted a link showing just the opposite. Did you miss it or are you once again practicing deciet?


    Pashendale, we don't beliebe you, your feinged outrage is irrelevant.'in no instance is there a requirment for you to be believed.
    The Teabaggers only objected to the racists after they started giving the teabaggers a bad rep. They didn't object to the racists because they reject racism. They're fine with the racists. They just didn't like the bad PR
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The Teabaggers only objected to the racists after they started giving the teabaggers a bad rep. They didn't object to the racists because they reject racism. They're fine with the racists. They just didn't like the bad PR

    The teabagged will often resort to lies and libel in order to smear those they disagree with politically.... Do you have any evidence of this claim or are you lying?
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    Re: Low Registration Sinks Tea Party Convention

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The teabagged will often resort to lies and libel in order to smear those they disagree with politically.... Do you have any evidence of this claim or are you lying?
    I already posted the pictures of racists going unmolested at teabagger rallies. It got so bad that teabagger leaders had to issue statements asking their followers to stop with the racist signs and talk
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