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    OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    I believe the accused is innocent until proven guilty, has the right to review evidence against him and sometimes what someone may view as child is not actually child porn. But at the same time I can't help but think are these people nuts.

    Local News | OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail | Seattle Times Newspaper
    TACOMA, Wash.

    A man accused of child sex crimes is allowed to view child pornography in the Pierce County Jail in Tacoma.

    The sheriff and the prosecutor don't like it. But Weldon Marc Gilbert is acting as his own lawyer in the case and that means he's allowed to review the evidence.
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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    I hope someone on the inside beats him senseless.

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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe the accused is innocent until proven guilty, has the right to review evidence against him and sometimes what someone may view as child is not actually child porn. But at the same time I can't help but think are these people nuts.

    Local News | OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail | Seattle Times Newspaper
    TACOMA, Wash. —

    A man accused of child sex crimes is allowed to view child pornography in the Pierce County Jail in Tacoma.

    The sheriff and the prosecutor don't like it. But Weldon Marc Gilbert is acting as his own lawyer in the case and that means he's allowed to review the evidence.
    Yeah, this is a bad situation, but there are significant Constitutional issues in play (e.g. Due Process) that protect the accused's right to have access to evidence against them. I have a hard time seeing how this could be fixed without either violating this guy's rights under the US Constitution, or potentially having otherwise inculpatory evidence excluded at trial. On the bright side, people who insist on representing themselves usually get their asses handed to them by prosecutors, so this guy probably would have been better off taking the deal he'd already made.

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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I hope someone on the inside beats him senseless.
    Really. If he's brave enough (or stupid enough) to let this get out I imagine things will work themselves out in the end.

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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Yeah, this is a bad situation, but there are significant Constitutional issues in play (e.g. Due Process) that protect the accused's right to have access to evidence against them. I have a hard time seeing how this could be fixed without either violating this guy's rights under the US Constitution, or potentially having otherwise inculpatory evidence excluded at trial.
    I agree.

    On the bright side, people who insist on representing themselves usually get their asses handed to them by prosecutors, so this guy probably would have been better off taking the deal he'd already made.
    If they are offering a deal then that means their evidence or case is weak.And the judge does not have to take the plea bargain.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    If it's evidence, and it wasn't planted, then he's seen those pictures before.
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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    If it's evidence, and it wasn't planted, then he's seen those pictures before.
    That's right. But the emotional right doesn't like to let facts get in their way.

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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    If it's evidence, and it wasn't planted, then he's seen those pictures before.
    You are assuming him guilty before the trial then. Until he has been proven guilty, then he has never seen those pictures, according to the law, and has a right to face his accusers, and see the evidence against him, just like any other person who is accused of whatever crime he or she is alleged to have committed.

    Having said that, I will now state that, if he is convicted, I hope he gets to share a cell for the rest of his life with Bubba the Booty Bandit. LOL.
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    Re: OK for suspect to view child porn in Tacoma jail

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    That's right. But the emotional right doesn't like to let facts get in their way.
    What a bunch of bull chit you present ..... I don't see anyone here arguing the law ...... but I guess in your mind it makes it morally right ? I just hope if it ever happens to your kids .. or anyone in your family ... that you uphold that righteous attitude of yours ....

    Gilbert pleaded guilty in federal court in 2009 to producing child pornography, and received a 25-year sentence. But, The News Tribune reported, the deal was contingent on Gilbert also pleading guilty in state court to sex crimes, with prosecutors recommending a sentence of no more than 17 years, to run concurrently with the federal sentence.

    When a judge told Gilbert his state sentence could be as long as life in prison, he withdrew his guilty plea.


    Naa he's not guilty ...

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