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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Just like Obama being against it when Bush was in office. Now hes all for it.
    And republicans being for it when Bush was in office and now they are against it.

    See what I did there?
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And republicans being for it when Bush was in office and now they are against it.

    See what I did there?
    I do see. That was my point.

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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    I didnt say that the debt ceiling wasnt raised. its been raised a crapload of times by previous presidents. I said the same folks screaming now about the need to raise the debt ceiling....were against it when another president was in office.
    Never happened
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Just like Obama being against it when Bush was in office. Now hes all for it.
    Never happened
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And republicans being for it when Bush was in office and now they are against it.

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    That did happen
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    I didnt say that the debt ceiling wasnt raised. its been raised a crapload of times by previous presidents. I said the same folks screaming now about the need to raise the debt ceiling....were against it when another president was in office.
    Give me a link and prove what you are saying. As a matter of fact, the last time the debt ceiling was raised under Bush, it was pretty much rubber-stamped by a Democratic House.
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

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    Never happened
    Reality and your Posts have yet to get along.........




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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    Let me start off by saying that I love Mitch McConnell's plan. I'm not usually his biggest fan, but this is an excellent idea. It will solve this debt standoff and prevent future standoffs.

    Although the maneuver is creative, it would very likely be unconsitutional. Article I, Section 7 states:

    Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a law. But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law.

    Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the rules and limitations prescribed in the case of a bill.


    The reality is that Congress must authorize an increase in the debt ceiling. A maneuver in which the President vetoes Congress's disapproval of raising the debt ceiling will not provide that authorization in place of Congress. That Congress would fail to override the veto would not constitute authorization where authorization had not been set forth in legislation.
    Congress would have to authorize this solution in the first place...in essence this would BE the law: to make debt increases automatic unless a new law was passed to repeal it. Congress has automated things in the past. For example, the fact that social security payments are indexed to inflation and automatically increase each year is a similar type of "automatic" law. The Supreme Court has never found these unconstitutional.

    And once again, kudos to Mitch McConnell (I think that may be the first time I've ever said that). Boehner offered only tepid support for this idea...but at least he didn't outright oppose it. I hope that Obama gets behind this, or some variant of it. It's a face-saving way out for everyone, and it prevents scary debt standoffs from arising in the future.
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Reality and your Posts have yet to get along.........
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    In both those videos, Obam and Reid explain that their objections are political, and not based on any ideological opposition to raising the debt
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Because voters have very short term memories. We forget that when a Rep ruled the white house, it was the democrats screaming that raising the debt ceiling was such a horrible thing to do. But now that a Dem rules the white house, seems they conveniently changed their minds. Same with Republicans...they all do it...each and every time... because we let them get away with it. Just like President Obama saying that not raising the debt ceiling was a lack of leadership and blah blah blah...hmmm...he conveniently forgot that when he got into office. Its why nothing ever gets done.
    However much democrats were screaming, they did not scream "Screw it; let the economy collapse because YES! we are that determined to **** you all over in favor of our rich buddies."

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