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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Maybe the republicans can just give the president unlimited power to enact whatever he wants. Then, they can vote it up or down, and he can choose to veto or accept their vote. That way, things can get done and if it works out they can say, "See we took over Congress and it all worked out." And if it doesn't work out they can reply, "It was all that Obama guy!!!"

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    Boehner Walks Away From Big Deficit Deal

    "“The President believes that solving our fiscal problems is an economic imperative. But in order to do that, we cannot ask the middle-class and seniors to bear all the burden of higher costs and budget cuts. We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well, and we believe the American people agree.

    “Both parties have made real progress thus far, and to back off now will not only fail to solve our fiscal challenge, it will confirm the cynicism people have about politics in Washington. The President believes that now is the moment to rise above that cynicism and show the American people that we can still do big things. And so tomorrow, he will make the case to congressional leaders that we must reject the politics of least resistance and take on this critical challenge.”

    The grand bargain, which would have included cuts upwards of $4.5 trillion, had been billed as too big to fail — a package offering major prizes for both parties. “The bigger, the better,” one freshman GOP member told TIME on Friday. “The bigger it is the harder it is to let fail.” GOP leaders had been hoping that the prospects of game-changing spending cuts coupled with a once-in-a lifetime tax reform deal — a second tranche that would have passed before the end of the year — would have convinced recalcitrant Republicans and Democrats to go along. But both sides have dug in their heels in recent days and partisan sparring continued in the wake of Boehner’s announcement."
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Boehner Walks Away From Big Deficit Deal

    "“The President believes that solving our fiscal problems is an economic imperative. But in order to do that, we cannot ask the middle-class and seniors to bear all the burden of higher costs and budget cuts. We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well, and we believe the American people agree.

    “Both parties have made real progress thus far, and to back off now will not only fail to solve our fiscal challenge, it will confirm the cynicism people have about politics in Washington. The President believes that now is the moment to rise above that cynicism and show the American people that we can still do big things. And so tomorrow, he will make the case to congressional leaders that we must reject the politics of least resistance and take on this critical challenge.”

    The grand bargain, which would have included cuts upwards of $4.5 trillion, had been billed as too big to fail — a package offering major prizes for both parties. “The bigger, the better,” one freshman GOP member told TIME on Friday. “The bigger it is the harder it is to let fail.” GOP leaders had been hoping that the prospects of game-changing spending cuts coupled with a once-in-a lifetime tax reform deal — a second tranche that would have passed before the end of the year — would have convinced recalcitrant Republicans and Democrats to go along. But both sides have dug in their heels in recent days and partisan sparring continued in the wake of Boehner’s announcement."
    It looks like spending won't be cut very much after all, and the Democrats may actually walk away from this with a political victory to boot. What a difference a week makes. Thank God we have Eric Cantor in Congress; he did more to advance liberal causes than anyone else at the negotiating table, Democrat or Republican.
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It looks like spending won't be cut very much after all, and the Democrats may actually walk away from this with a political victory to boot. What a difference a week makes. Thank God we have Eric Cantor in Congress; he did more to advance liberal causes than anyone else at the negotiating table, Democrat or Republican.
    I care little for the political victory, but I guess it was nice to see the Democrats grow a spine. I am disappointed most that we have missed the opportunity to cut spending and increase revenues significantly.
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I care little for the political victory, but I guess it was nice to see the Democrats grow a spine. I am disappointed most that we have missed the opportunity to cut spending and increase revenues significantly.
    I bet it still comes. A great many people will have a great deal to prove in the next 15 months.

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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Maybe the republicans can just give the president unlimited power to enact whatever he wants. Then, they can vote it up or down, and he can choose to veto or accept their vote. That way, things can get done and if it works out they can say, "See we took over Congress and it all worked out." And if it doesn't work out they can reply, "It was all that Obama guy!!!"

    Cowards.
    Don't be ridiculous. The House repubs can't even get their own bills passed!!

    The republicans run the House. The republican leader decides which bills get voted on. The republicans in the House could pass WHATEVER they want, but they're so befuddled, they can't even pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling
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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. The House repubs can't even get their own bills passed!!

    The republicans run the House. The republican leader decides which bills get voted on. The republicans in the House could pass WHATEVER they want, but they're so befuddled, they can't even pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling
    Nevermind create jobs.

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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am disappointed most that we have missed the opportunity to cut spending and increase revenues significantly.
    oh, you'll get your cuts

    as for that other, sorry

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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
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    not only has it been more than 800 days since the party in power passed a budget IN TIMES LIKE THESE

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    Re: McConnell Offers 'Backup' US Debt Limit Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    House repubs can't even get their own bills passed
    First Read - Ryan budget plan passes House

    they can't even pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling
    House to Vote on $2.4 Trillion Debt Increase, Spending Cuts

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