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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    So you then agree that the Dems unwillingess to comprimise is also disgusting.
    interesting read...Republicans' no-tax purity problem - CNN.com


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    Alas, the "who" part is the real problem. The Republican party has evolved, before our very eyes, into a purist, anti-tax troupe that cares more about its no-new-taxes mantra than deficit reduction. It has defined itself downward, to borrow Pat Moynihan's phrase: from a big-tent, fiscally conservative party into a coalition narrowly and blindly carved to fit a political bumper sticker.

    How else to explain the GOP's refusal to even consider a potential deal cooked up by the president and House Speaker John Boehner? When the Democratic president even considers a $4 trillion plan that counts $3 in spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases, serious-minded GOP deficit cutters would normally rejoice.

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    That's because Republicans have moved beyond politics and into theology: Offered an exchange of billions in taxes for trillions in deficit cuts, they could not see their way beyond their no-tax religion. A definitional moment, to say the least.

    It comes as no surprise, but it disappoints all the same. More than 230 House Republicans -- along with 40 GOP senators -- all signed a no-tax pledge. Back in 2008, John McCain refused to sign one, rightly arguing that no president should lock himself into that box

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    But how about a pledge to keep the country running, not to mention a pledge to try and reduce the deficit? Whatever happened to that? Republicans are fond of claiming that Obama does not pay homage to the notion of American exceptionalism. But how can you level that claim when your party is happy to let the nation default on its debts? (Or, as GOP presidential wannabee Tim Pawlenty put it, "I hope and pray and believe they should not raise the debt ceiling.") Is that what Tim Pawlenty really prays about?

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    how much compromise do you need? offering 3 dollars in cuts for every dollar of new taxes? the dems have attempted compromise, the republicans have not....
    How did I know you'd try to equivocate some more, to avoid having to say that the Dem's unwillingness to comprimise is "disgusting"?

    Your post is either abject ignorance, or a lie.
    - They demand that taxes be raised
    - They refuse to allow for the idea that certain entitlements be cut
    They refuse to comprimise.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    In a way. The side that has to compromise "the most" is the one that has the most to lose from not compromising.
    The way the debate is understood by the American people, that is the Republicans.
    Thank you for your equivocations.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    - They demand that taxes be raised
    - They refuse to allow for the idea that certain entitlements be cut

    http://www.businessinsider.com/nancy...-talks-2011-7e demand that several entitlement programs be safe from cuts

    Again:
    The Democrats are unwilling to comprimise -- but that's OK -- right?
    dems will cut the budget, along with tax increases. reps will just cut the budget. get it?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    How did I know you'd try to equivocate some more, to avoid having to say that the Dem's unwillingness to comprimise is "disgusting"?

    Your post is either abject ignorance, or a lie.
    - They demand that taxes be raised
    - They refuse to allow for the idea that certain entitlements be cut
    They refuse to comprimise.
    apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word 'compromise'...perhaps you should google it? read up on it? study the term and its meaning?

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    How did I know you'd try to equivocate some more, to avoid having to say that the Dem's unwillingness to comprimise is "disgusting"?

    Your post is either abject ignorance, or a lie.
    - They demand that taxes be raised
    - They refuse to allow for the idea that certain entitlements be cut
    They refuse to comprimise.
    Flawed logic. It doesn't include that other entitlements are fair game for cuts.
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    dems will cut the budget, along with tax increases. reps will just cut the budget. get it?
    i don't believe he does..it is only 'compromise' if the dems give in to the gop, in his opinion.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Flawed logic. It doesn't include that other entitlements are fair game for cuts.
    Irrelevant - they refuse to comprimise on those two points.

    As we have heard, refusal to comprimise is "disgusting".

    But, as we see, this is apparently true only when one side does it.

    You just GOTTA love people to try to hide their partisan bigotry!

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Irrelevant - they refuse to comprimise on those two points.

    As we have heard, refusal to comprimise is "disgusting".

    But, as we see, this is apparently true only when one side does it.

    You just GOTTA love people to try to hide their partisan bigotry!
    It's not irrelevant, or at least, you need to revise your assertion that the Democrats, "aren't compromising" to, "they aren't compromising enough." The former isn't true, YMV on the latter.
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word 'compromise'...perhaps you should google it? read up on it? study the term and its meaning?
    Spare me.
    You refuse to accept the fact that there are points on which both the GOP and Dems are unwilling to comprimise.
    You agree with the tenet that the unwillingness to comprimise is "disgusting" - but only when refering to one side, even when both sides refuse to do so.

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