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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    a deal had been put up by dems which came down to 3 dollars in cuts, for every 1 dollar in increased taxes...pretty sweet deal you ask me, getting 3 for 1.
    We should compromise for this deal. We should accept the three dollars in cuts today for a promise of raising taxes on the people who currently pay no income taxes.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    dems will cut the budget, along with tax increases. reps will just cut the budget. get it?
    This is actually funny. If democrats really planned on cutting spending then why do they need more (potential) money? The dirty truth is that democrats lie. All of the cuts will be in the out years (and we know they will not actually happen) while the tax increases will be immediate, of if he follows the Clinton model, retroactive.

    Cut, cut, cut, cut.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Again, this isn't about tax cuts or tax hikes. It is about whether or not we should be following Keynsian Theory or not.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So it's a fear tactic to suggest that not raising the debt ceiling might cause us to default, it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might cause us to not pay our soldiers, and it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might jeopardize the entitlements of the elderly. So let's try it this way: Where do YOU suggest we find 43% of our budget to eliminate in the next three weeks? (Hint: cutting NPR funding doesn't quite get you there.)
    Why don't we look to the Constitution? Let us compare the government's myriad departments to the Constitution. If we cannot find it in the constitution let's close the department. Education would go. EPA would go. Those would help a great deal. Then, since the departments were extra-constitutional we could do a blanked repeal of all of their idiotic regulations. That would cut the budget and also act as a jobs bill.

    And, oh yeah, let's defund NPR.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We need a full blown, very aggressive, very much "in your face", very much no holds barred campaign filled with statistics, fact and figures about the right wing war on the working class in America. That should be the centerpiece and focus of the campaign because everything else is just a plank in that platform.
    I certainly agree with this. The differences between the party you represent and the party that I tend to vote for would be clear and stark. But how does that fit the party whose prescription for success can be summarized by the question, "How can we fool them (the American people) today?"

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And taxes may have to go up at some point. If we are unwilling to cut SS or Medicade and Medicare, then we have to pay for them.
    Then let us broaden the tax base to include the nearly half of us who do not pay any federal income taxes. After a decade of that plus cutting every department that is extra-constitutional, and having the government sell its massive land holdings, let us revisit increasing taxes on productive people.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Exactly. It's all a bunch of posturing bastards. McConnell even said “I refuse to help Barack Obama get reelected by marching Republicans into a position where we have co-ownership of a bad economy.”
    So no. He doesn't want to do his duly elected job. He wants to WIN!
    Disgusting git.
    LOL. I don't like McConnell because the McConnell plan indicates a mindset of caving in the the Democrats. But I agree that we should not provide ammunition to the one term Marxist president Obama. He needs to fail on his own.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    NOT a problem. As long as Obama doesn't get re-elected.
    Now this is a statement I completely agree with.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Mr. Levin knows full well that a complete refusal to compromise will lead to a failed negotiation.
    We can allow the Democrats to compromise this time. Let's see your spending cuts. Let's agree to craft and vote on a balanced budget amendment. Let us agree to begin closing down the extra-constitutional departments and fire all of the one term Marxist president Obama's Czars. Then let us agree to begin deregulating the American economy. Let's lower our corporate tax rate to the lowest of all of the developed countries.

    Let us once again crave liberty. Let us crave freedom.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's puzzling is Obama's insistence that no revenue-generating mechanism is acceptable unless it includes a tax hike on the rich.
    Marxist philosophy calls for centralization of power and the redistribution of wealth. The one term president grew up in the presence of Marxists, communists, and socialists. He is Marxist in his core principles. Therefore, he has a need to defund his enemies through confiscatory taxes, and to redistribute their wealth to his base through the explosive growth of public sector unions and government workers.

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