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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Shut it down!!! Well, at least shut down the tax and spenders and do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    but of course it is. not even Democrats would pass these tax hikes, yet Obama refuses to avoid what he says would be a fiscal catastrophe unless Republicans do it for him? what utter baloney.
    Time for some honesty here. You know as well as I do that the real problem with tax hikes are that they are unpopular. Period. Obama has to play to the political realities every bit as much as republicans do.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I am not a supporter of Cong. Ron Paul; however, I agree with him on his new ad:

    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice, shame on me.
    Fool me three times, blow my head off!

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't see why we should be surprised to see government scare tactics. They do it a lot. How much was sold to us because the big bad terrorist was going to get us? The government loves fear tactics. Fear will keep them in line...fear of this battlestation.
    So true. The politics of fear is neither new nor limited to one party.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So, any debt crisis is solely the doing of the GOP? Reps are just using the leverage they have now, you, like the Dems did with the health care monstrosity. If Obama's serious, why isn't that on the chopping block?
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    it seems to me if THEY can't send out SS checks then WE don't need to pay into it anymore right? so this would automatically cut our taxes right? oh but THEY rely on that money for purposes other than what it's intended for! well maybe we should cut what we are spending THAT money on that is NOT for it's original intent FIRST!!!

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Time for some honesty here. You know as well as I do that the real problem with tax hikes are that they are unpopular. Period. Obama has to play to the political realities every bit as much as republicans do.
    precisely, he wants something unpopular, but he doesn't want to take the heat for it, especially if it goes badly.

    i get that.

    that's why I wrote at the beginning that I would be willing to raise taxes on the upper income earners.

    in return for Ryan's Medicare Proposal.

    Quid Pro Quo
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not that it's unsolvable or that the President can't have an effect. It's more to do with the fact that everyone has slumped down into partisan politics and are playing to protect their party instead of the Republic. In theory, this could have been solved a long time ago and Obama could have had some amount of effect. But they don't move in a direction that would actually solve it. Both sides are just posturing and pointing fingers. As I said, I would expect that at the last minute they'll try to actually pass something to try to save face. Both sides will claim victory and then attack the other side for obstructionist behavior.
    I knew it would come down to a statement about two parties. Maybe if I was a purist libertarian, I might see it different. But the problem is, you folks are not getting many elected. You can't stay on the sidelines pointing one finger at the D and the other at the R, just bitch. You have to get involved one side or the other, or just be quiet. Playing the middle or just standing on the outskirts accomplishes nothing. We all know about partisanship and what's going on, you (as a group) are not telling us anything we don't know.
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So? For once someone objects to raising taxes. Good for them.

    Because he's spent more in a shorter time than any other president. Duh. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call others dense, eh?
    He had to spend in order to stabilize the crap economy that Bush left him. You think Republicans don't spend? Are you forgetting the 2 wars, the Medicare drug plan, and the Bush tax cuts for the rich, none of which were paid for? ANd who passed TARP? Here's a hint, it wasn't Obama. Maybe you should just quit at this point. You lose.


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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    You're the one with the burden of proof. PROVE to me Obama had anything to do with any of that stuff. You come up with some list from some site, without anything to back it up. Where's the proof? Why don't the democrats push all those issues if they are so good for Obama? Why is some hack site from some hack member of a political forum the only place they're mentioned?

    *crickets*

    And yes, I'm going to bed. IVE GOT A JOB, AIN'T IT NICE? I'm closing on a house next week, you gotta job to? I doubt it, considering your some pansy on a political forum at almost midnight! LOL What a joke.
    Listen, you smarmy little hack. I don't have burden of proof. I posted the list of accomplishments. Prove that Obama is not responsible. That's on you. Those accomplishments happened on Obama's watch. Therefore, he gets credit. Just like you give him credit for the bad, he gets credit for the good. Pull your ****ing head from your ass-gape and you might understand that.

    ANd who the **** are you to accuse me of having no job? I've had the same ****ing job for the last 11 years. Now sit down you clueless hack. I'm this close [holding my fingers about a half inch apart - about the size of your dick] to putting your dense ass on ignore.
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