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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Sensibility View Post
    Unless she really deserves it.
    Well, there is that.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The few percentage points back to pre Bush tax cuts would have hardly been noticed by those targetted
    you don't know what you're talking about

    Means testing needs to be part of it, but so does real healthcare reform
    we just did obamacare

    LOL!

    where were you

    it was in all the news

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    The stimulus did a great deal of good, avoiding an almost certain depression.
    based on what? made up just-so circular arguments? the stimulus failed by it's own measures.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Was it a blow up? Obama, GOP get tense in talks - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    "Obama's speech was reportedly in response to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's repeated insistence that only a short-term, smaller deal on debt savings was possible. Following the meeting, Cantor told reporters that after the GOP rep.'s third time insisting that his party wouldn't budge, the president reportedly said: "Eric, don't call my bluff. I'm going to the American people with this."

    I wonder if he means the American people whose Social Security Checks he says won't get mailed on 8/3?
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Urging an unyielding theological line of no compromise whatsoever is exactly a championing of a failure to reach agreement.
    So, in refusing to take tax hikes off the table and refusing to accept cuts in entitlements, The Obama and the Dems are responsible for a failure to reach agreement

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You: Obama won't compromise.
    Me: Obama offered 4 trillion in cuts that are deeply unpopular with his base and the GOP refuses to budge from their position.

    The Obama is unwilling to compromise on tax hikes.
    This is every bit as uncompromising as the GOP unwillingness to compromise on tax hikes.
    There's no intellectually honest way to argue otherwise - but, I am sure you'll try.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    he couldn't get his own party to pass them back when they were the majority. so now he wants Republicans to pass tax hikes for him....




    yeah. no thanks.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    he couldn't get his own party to pass them back when they were the majority. so now he wants Republicans to pass tax hikes for him....




    yeah. no thanks.
    that indeed may be an attitude heard from those sitting at the childrens table......... but now they are sitting at the adults table and it is not appropriate.
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    You guys blame a man that was put into this situation. Sure, he passed a 700 billion package, but the true purpose of that bill was to save what little he could.

    If you take any basic political science course, and you study the polls of presidents, you will find the same trend. They start in high favor, only to follow to disgust of the president. The worst in history was President George Busch Jr. This relationship can be best summed up by former President Clinton during a Letterman or Leno interview, I can't remember which one. He basically said the hardest part about being the President, is trying to balance the promises of your campaign with the reality of the world. You see, presidential candidates don't receive the black folder of the President. After they go through the highly competitive campaign, do they see the facts of our world. As pretty much every President has shown, the reality of the world requires them to go against promises.

    And so, to the current presidency. Law makers were literally summoned one Friday afternoon, and were told that if they didn't sign over 700 billion to The Fed, there wouldn't be a financial system. Wall Street works lightyears faster than Washington, and eventually they signed the 700 billion dollar bill, but it was probably too late. Frankly, if you consider the events that unfolded, I feel the administration has done a fantastic job to at least keep what we have. Sure, the future of it is still unknown, but at least now we have a system to fight for.

    The strategy of the stimulus bill I feel wasn't progressive enough. If you are going to go one route, I say do it all the way. They based the strategy after The New Deal during The Depression. The problem is, times change as well as technology and such. The best investment we as a country could of done with the stimulus package were to create new "green" jobs, in order to provide the infrastructure we are going to need in the year 2014-2015. It has been predicted that in those years, the amount of energy required to extract oil will be more than the energy collected. This is why it is a dire situation, that we must invest in alternative energies NOW.

    The reason why as you guys put it, Obama is threatening Grandma and Grandpa wasn't his fault. If you were to blame any body, blame Wall Street for their unethical view of buy low and sell high at no matter the cost. It was the greed of wall street that threatens people's retirement, not Obama.

    I view Obama's presidency as a destruction control presidency. He was handed the hard job of trying to do his best to preserve what we have. In my mind, he did a brilliant job. With wall street functioning many years faster than the real world, we are able to debate over a system that is still there.

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