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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Irrelevant. If the debt ceiling is not raised, then spending -must- be cut to match revenue.
    No program, no entitlement - nothing is above being cut.
    Does this include our wars?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does this include our wars?
    What part of no program and no entitlement do you not understand? But remember, almost 60% of our spending is sustainable, which would probably include the cost of the wars.

    I don't have confidence that the repubs will actually not raise the debt ceiling, but I hope they don't.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What a dirtbag move by the POTUS... Scare and fear tactics...... These checks will go out, and Obama should be ashamed of himself threatening seniors and Veterans.
    Scare tactics are a tried and true political tactic. I mean, look at all the crap we got because the terrorists were going to get us. More government, more laws, now we can't even get through the airport without invasive screening. That **** costs money....our money.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    We'll see how well 43% cuts on everything sit with the American people and if they actually have the stomach for that. My guess: It would be less than 24 hours into such a standoff before the Republicans caved.
    I agree. Its big talk when its someone elses money youre talking about. When the american people realize just how much that would affect them personally.... I dont think they would be so keen on it anymore. Of course thats really nothing new, we as a society are generally like that. Its good to do this or that...(sshhhhh...so long as it doesnt affect me)

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    What part of no program and no entitlement do you not understand? But remember, almost 60% of our spending is sustainable, which would probably include the cost of the wars.

    I don't have confidence that the repubs will actually not raise the debt ceiling, but I hope they don't.
    Well ususally when people are screaming to cut Social Security, Medicare, etc. they tend to not want to end our interventionist wars. That's why I asked the question, are our wars included in what he wanted cut. Because the wars are well more unnecessary than say Social Security.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    I agree. Its big talk when its someone elses money youre talking about. When the american people realize just how much that would affect them personally.... I dont think they would be so keen on it anymore. Of course thats really nothing new, we as a society are generally like that. Its good to do this or that...(sshhhhh...so long as it doesnt affect me)
    We're talking about saving people money. How is that bad? The american people would be affected by having a gov't at least briefly living within its means. OH MY GAWD THE WORLD WILL CEASE TO EXIST, GRANDMA WILL DIE!!!!!

    I'd be real keen on it, whether I liked it or not. If I fell in love with t bone steak every night and then someone told me "hey look, you can't afford this anymore" would I like it? No. Would I live on something cheaper? Yes.

    My gawd, do you have anything else to add to the conversation?
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 07-13-11 at 12:47 PM.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    We're talking about saving people money. How is that bad? The american people would be affected by having a gov't at least briefly living within its means? OH MY GAWD THE WORLD WILL CEASE TO EXIST, GRANDMA WILL DIE!!
    That will be the battle cry.
    Of course, it isn't true - but, the ends justify the means, so its OK.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does this include our wars?
    My original post to this effect postulated a 43% cut in all spending, across the board.
    43% cut in SocSec
    43% cut in Medicare
    43% cut in defense spending
    43% cut in...

    Now, a 43% cut in defense spending will give the DoD a budget of about $375B (using FY2009 numbers), the allocation of which will be determined otherwise - so, that may or may not mean the end of our wars.
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    We're talking about saving people money. How is that bad? The american people would be affected by having a gov't at least briefly living within its means. OH MY GAWD THE WORLD WILL CEASE TO EXIST, GRANDMA WILL DIE!!!!!

    My gawd, do you have anything else to add to the conversation?
    Oh I think America should definitely live within its means. I think budgets for our country should be just like the one I have for my home...if ya dont have it, dont spend it. If ya cant pay for it... you either have to get a second job or do without. I was just commenting on his comment about the american people in general.

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    Re: August 1, 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    BS.

    Social security payments and the debt ceiling have nothing to do with each other.

    Minnesota shut it government down weeks ago. Has it imploded yet?
    It will soon. Liquor licenses are not being renewed and bars and taverns are droppping like flies. It's only a matter of time until the drunks go on a rampage. LOL.
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