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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think it is accurate all the same. They would ahve given more tax cuts, and sought money that would go to business and wealthy. Both sides spend, but they don't always spend in the same areas.
    Yes they do. I live in one of the most solidly Democratic districts in the country and my Congressman just loves defense contractors. He gave a few million in earmarks to a company that 5 years later is still a rent a secretary in a rented office "suite". But hey what the heck their good for $10 to $20K in campaign donations
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Yes they do. I live in one of the most solidly Democratic districts in the country and my Congressman just loves defense contractors. He gave a few million in earmarks to a company that 5 years later is still a rent a secretary in a rented office "suite". But hey what the heck their good for $10 to $20K in campaign donations
    All congress critiers like pork. And frankly, so do we the voters. Not YOUR pork mind you. We like our pork.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    How did I know you'd try to equivocate some more, to avoid having to say that the Dem's unwillingness to compromise is "disgusting"?

    Your post is either abject ignorance, or a lie.
    - They demand that taxes be raised
    - They refuse to allow for the idea that certain entitlements be cut
    They refuse to compromise.
    You don't understand compromise, do you?

    To be willing to compromise doesn't mean that everything is on the table. Obama offered a good compromise, the Republicans are the ones who refused.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    When Bush did it, people didn't take as much notice. Unemployment was lower, housing wasn't a problem nor were defaults, people were working, and the anti-war crowd was taking up all the headlines and television news time protesting Bush everywhere he went. See... times changed. NOW we're technically out of a recession with 9.2% unemployment, a sputtering economy, failed stimulus spending, and Europe bracing for very hard times. THIS conservative wasn't on board when Bush was spending ... to your point, it's not any better when a (R) does it or when a (D) does it. We cannot afford more increases because this is now, and that was then. Then wasn't so bad... now is. See the whole "time" thing and how that works?
    Good rationalization!

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Kinda like the Republicans threaten the whole of us to preserve tax loopholes like the Capital Gains tax? Yup, peas in a pod y'all are. Good job not doing anything productive and doing everything y'all can to bring down the Republic. Great.
    I remember when the Republicans bullied the last democrat president on capital gains in the late 90s. The sharp upturn in tax revenue nearly brought down the Republic. I for one don't want to go through THAT again.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You don't understand compromise, do you?

    To be willing to compromise doesn't mean that everything is on the table. Obama offered a good compromise, the Republicans are the ones who refused.
    Is this the same President who told them they could sit in the back seat while he and his party passed the most expensive stim-u-less bill in history (ineffective), a massive jobs bill (ineffective), the largest entitlement since medicare, and a massive tax increase to pay for some of it?

    Now that we have trillion dollar deficits and a debt crisis, he thinks Republicans are being unreasonable in wanting to pare down spending, blames the debt on greedy rich folks, and has the gall to demand comprimise?

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Translation:

    I can't condemn Obama for threatening old people, so I'll just ignore it.
    So it's a fear tactic to suggest that not raising the debt ceiling might cause us to default, it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might cause us to not pay our soldiers, and it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might jeopardize the entitlements of the elderly. So let's try it this way: Where do YOU suggest we find 43% of our budget to eliminate in the next three weeks? (Hint: cutting NPR funding doesn't quite get you there.)
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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    I just counted all my pills to make sure I have enough to get threw next month.

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So it's a fear tactic to suggest that not raising the debt ceiling might cause us to default, it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might cause us to not pay our soldiers, and it's a fear tactic to suggest that it might jeopardize the entitlements of the elderly. So let's try it this way: Where do YOU suggest we find 43% of our budget to eliminate in the next three weeks? (Hint: cutting NPR funding doesn't quite get you there.)
    Is it actually a fear tactic if he's actually speaking the truth?

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    Re: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Never mind. You're clueless and hopeless. I'd be better off talking to a dining room table.
    Wait.. wait... you REALLY think that:

    The GOP isn't willing to back off of a position - so they're resuding to comprimise..
    ...but...
    The Dems aren't willing to back off a position - but they're WILLING to comprimise?

    Better not have a go at that dining room table - it might argue you into a corner...
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