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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    Yeah, so where are the jobs then? Businesses are sitting on record profits.
    Because the future is uncertain. Obamacare, tax hikes... you don't start hiring and spending without knowing what future costs are going to be.

    Business 101, go take a course and get back to us.
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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    If the Bush rates are so bad. Why did the likes of Pelosi take advantage of them instead of contributing what they consider their fair share? Pelosi did nothing wrong in following approved tax rates. I am saying if they so strongly feel the "rich" need to pay "their fair share", why have they not contributed at the rate they feel is appropriate along? It is political bs to me to say the rich need to pay more, yet Pelosi has not. Contributions/gifts to the govt. can be done above the tax rate.
    Really, really bizarre argument. So now everybody needs to practice in real life all legislation that they think OUGHT to be passed, but hasn't been?

    So conservatives who think all illegal immigrants should be deported should be hauling vans full of Mexicans over the border on their free time?


    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because the future is uncertain. Obamacare, tax hikes... you don't start hiring and spending without knowing what future costs are going to be.

    Business 101, go take a course and get back to us.
    I am an accounting major at a big ten school highly respected for it's business program, but be condescending all you like...it only discredits you, not me.

    Obamacare is not an uncertainty - any mandates or taxes are now law, and can be read online by anyone with a laptop and eyes. Uncertainty is no longer an issue. The opposite is.
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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because the future is uncertain. Obamacare, tax hikes... you don't start hiring and spending without knowing what future costs are going to be.

    Business 101, go take a course and get back to us.
    Go take a business course? Yeah right, that just means you drink from the time you wake up till the time you go to sleep. Business majors are easy mode.

    Another uncertain is the fact that we STILL DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. And that's the Republocrats fault.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    Really, really bizarre argument. So now everybody needs to practice in real life all legislation that they think OUGHT to be passed, but hasn't been?

    So conservatives who think all illegal immigrants should be deported should be hauling vans full of Mexicans over the border on their free time?




    I am an accounting major at a big ten school highly respected for it's business program, but be condescending all you like...it only discredits you, not me.

    Obamacare is not an uncertainty - any mandates or taxes are now law, and can be read online by anyone with a laptop and eyes. Uncertainty is no longer an issue. The opposite is.
    You should get your money back.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Yeah, I really didn't expect any substantive comeback.

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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Go take a business course? Yeah right, that just means you drink from the time you wake up till the time you go to sleep. Business majors are easy mode.

    Another uncertain is the fact that we STILL DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. And that's the Republocrats fault.
    WHAT?

    The GOP PRESENTED a Budget. The Dem's held the House AND SENATE for TWO YEARS and failed to present a budget.

    Go smoke some more left wing tripe Ikari, that might fly with the uninformed, but not with folks that pay any attention at all to what's going on.
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    House passes GOP budget plan for 2012 - The Washington Post

    By Paul Kane and Philip Rucker, Published: April 15
    House Republicans approved a budget on Friday that would fundamentally alter Medicare and Medicaid, lower taxes on individuals and corporations and cut $4.4 trillion from the nation’s deficit over the next decade.

    With its passing, Republicans have officially put forth their vision for reducing the nation’s debt and defining how the federal government fits into people’s lives. It’s a sharply different approach from the one outlined by President Obama on Wednesday, setting up months of clashes between the two parties over a number of critical fiscal issues.
    Lies, it's all you've Got Ikari.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    WHAT?

    The GOP PRESENTED a Budget. The Dem's held the House AND SENATE for TWO YEARS and failed to present a budget.

    Go smoke some more left wing tripe Ikari, that might fly with the uninformed, but not with folks that pay any attention at all to what's going on.
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    House passes GOP budget plan for 2012 - The Washington Post



    Lies, it's all you've Got Ikari.
    Dumbass comments and arguments is all you got. Obama presented the Republicans with one of their original plans, but they too denied it. Now it's just cry cry cry on either side and nothing gets done. Thanks for nothing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Dumbass comments and arguments is all you got. Obama presented the Republicans with one of their original plans, but they too denied it. Now it's just cry cry cry on either side and nothing gets done. Thanks for nothing.
    Obama presented an outline with no specifics, didn't that go down 97-0 in the Senate? Yeah, yeah it did. Try again Ikari.
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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    We can. The question should be why? I may be ok with raising taxes if the additional revenue went entirely to pay down the debt. The feds like many States cannot continue to spend at the level they are doing it. Don't you think the Feds should have a balanced budget? Part of that budget should be the debt payment. This is no different than many citizens that have to balance the home budget which includes loan obligations (home,car,etc). The govt., like people should not live beyond their means.
    My husband and I talked about this last night and wondered about it. If President Obama and the congress came out and said....we are raising taxes by such and such amount, these taxes (by law) can only be spent to pay down the deficit... how many of people would be ok with that???

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    Re: Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Go take a business course? Yeah right, that just means you drink from the time you wake up till the time you go to sleep. Business majors are easy mode.

    Another uncertain is the fact that we STILL DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. And that's the Republocrats fault.
    They won't compromise and will blame the democrats and Obama and for some reason the people will buy it hook, line and sinker.

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