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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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Grant said:
Actually that's not what I said at all, which is why I insist that Leftists use quotes. As well, your lack of comprehension skills has been well noted.
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No, you've never said that!! :roll:

Grant said:
I'd really appreciate if you alerted everyone to this plan about ending Social Security, Haymarket, because I've seen no mention of it anywhere.

Could you please provide a copy of this plan?
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Grant said:
I'd really appreciate if you alerted everyone to this plan about ending Social Security, Haymarket, because I've seen no mention of it anywhere.

Could you please provide a copy of this plan?
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LesGovt said:
Well, I believe the topic here is tax hikes. In this discussion, the lies of the Democrats are highly relevant.
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And the lies of repubs are irrelevant :roll:
 
Grant said:
I'd really appreciate if you alerted everyone to this plan about ending Social Security, Haymarket, because I've seen no mention of it anywhere.

Could you please provide a copy of this plan?
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ReverendHellh0und said:
But if we think you'll remain silent on em while chastizing past republicans?
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I haven't remained silent on them.

On one hand, you acknowledge that I have admitted to the dems lying, and then you turn around and say I'm silent about the dems lies
 
Objective Voice said:
What's your timeline on who submitted their budget proposals? President Obama submitted his budget in early February, 2011. When did Paul Ryan and House Republicans submit theirs?
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obama's doa budget was submitted in february

ryan came out first week in april

GOP's Ryan proposes $4 trillion in cuts - UPI.com

on april 13 obama went to gwu and essentially asked america for a redo

President Obama Deficit Speech on Fiscal Policy at George Washington University - ABC News

that's when barack the slasher was born, at gwu, and this is why his february production, which absurdly, ridiculously, preposterously and unrealistically tried to INCREASE borrowing 20% was routed on hurryup harry's floor, 97 to 0
 
sangha said:
And the lies of repubs are irrelevant :roll:
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You have agreed that Democrats have lied about cutting spending. My last comment was on target. Have a nice day as I am going to ignore you for the rest of the day. I may check out your dishonesty tomorrow. But then, maybe not. Enjoy!!
 
sangha said:
There's nothing honest or accurate about claiming "It's the dems fault" while assigning no blame to the republicans.
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says someone who advocates hanging his neighbors

LOL!
 
LesGovt said:
You have agreed that Democrats have lied about cutting spending. My last comment was on target. Have a nice day as I am going to ignore you for the rest of the day. I may check out your dishonesty tomorrow. But then, maybe not. Enjoy!!
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And once again, you take a pass on criticizing the repubs for their lies about cutting spending, balancing the budget, reducing the debt, smaller govt, and on and on
 
Objective Voice said:
Okay, and the President submitted his right after the SOUA as required by law. Therefore, you can't keep with this "he didn't show leadership 'cause he submitted his budget plan after the new Republican majority House did. Nah!" Sorry, but that's how kids act.

Fact is, the President did his job. It was then incumbant upon Congress to take both plans, as well as any proposed by the Senate, and come up with a consensus budget plan that would work. Instead, they all played party politics and offered short-term plans. Hence, the reason the President said he was unwilling to sign any 2, 3 or 6 month short-gap spending plans. I'd say he has shown leadership here. He has gone above the dollar amount of spending cuts initially requested by the GOP, but at every turn they've balked and the only reason they did so was because the President's plan called for closing tax loopholes and didn't include entitlement reform. Yet, Sen. McConnoll has said such reforms (in the tax code) could not be done in such a short time between the time he got involved in debt limit negotiations and the deadline for raising same. What a crock!! Can you say, "cop-out?"
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You do realize we are talking about the 2011 budget, right? That was due before October 1, 2010. That budget wasn't submitted by either the President or the Democrat Congress prior to October 1, 2010, why? That is a cop out. McConnoll is saying like most responsible individuals we have a spending problem not a revenue problem and that is reality
 
sangha said:
I haven't remained silent on them.

On one hand, you acknowledge that I have admitted to the dems lying, and then you turn around and say I'm silent about the dems lies
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Could it be that the lies which you call out on the demo's are those that are not the destructive ones that we see, IOW, you call out some minor lies of that which you don't think demo's go far enough with, meanwhile we don't want their agenda in any sort.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Could it be that the lies which you call out on the demo's are those that are not the destructive ones that we see, IOW, you call out some minor lies of that which you don't think demo's go far enough with, meanwhile we don't want their agenda in any sort.

j-mac
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If you had read the thread, you'dknow that I agreed with him about the specific lies that dems have told. If he is only pointing to the non-destructive lies, then that is on him, not me
 
Objective Voice said:
Okay, and the President submitted his right after the SOUA as required by law. Therefore, you can't keep with this "he didn't show leadership 'cause he submitted his budget plan after the new Republican majority House did. Nah!" Sorry, but that's how kids act.

Fact is, the President did his job. It was then incumbant upon Congress to take both plans, as well as any proposed by the Senate, and come up with a consensus budget plan that would work. Instead, they all played party politics and offered short-term plans. Hence, the reason the President said he was unwilling to sign any 2, 3 or 6 month short-gap spending plans. I'd say he has shown leadership here. He has gone above the dollar amount of spending cuts initially requested by the GOP, but at every turn they've balked and the only reason they did so was because the President's plan called for closing tax loopholes and didn't include entitlement reform. Yet, Sen. McConnoll has said such reforms (in the tax code) could not be done in such a short time between the time he got involved in debt limit negotiations and the deadline for raising same. What a crock!! Can you say, "cop-out?"
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Can you tell me what Obama's position was on the debt ceiling in 2006 and his comments regarding that vote? If you cannot, I can. Suggest you compare that vote and comments to his now. This guy is incompetent.
 
Conservative said:
Can you tell me what Obama's position was on the debt ceiling in 2006 and his comments regarding that vote? If you cannot, I can. Suggest you compare that vote and comments to his now. This guy is incompetent.
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His position is that his opposition was a political calculation, and not an opposition to debt. He called it a mistake

But yes, he is incompetent
 
sangha said:
You claimed that no repubs were proposing to end SS. Now you've changed your tune to "Are they the only places where you can find cuts?" a question you should be asking the repubs, who ran away when Obama proposed additional spending cuts.
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Your going to have to start using quotes now because your misrepresentations of what has actually been said has gotten seriously out of hand.
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sangha said:
If you had read the thread, you'dknow that I agreed with him about the specific lies that dems have told. If he is only pointing to the non-destructive lies, then that is on him, not me
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If I thought it was important enough to re read, and not some playground measuring contest, I would. But hey, I was just trying to help.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
If I thought it was important enough to re read, and not some playground measuring contest, I would. But hey, I was just trying to help.

j-mac
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Yes, you tried

You failed

Because you thought it was important enough to comment on, but not important enough to learn the facts
 
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