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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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Got any proof of that? What's your timeline on who submitted their budget proposals? Remember: President Obama submitted his budget in early February, 2011. When did Paul Ryan and House Republicans submit theirs?

Also, as I stated in an ealier post to this thread, per the GOP Pledge to America, their baseline for spending cuts was $1 billion/per year. Seems to me the President's original budget proposal would have netted them just over their baseline benchmark. And yet they rejected the offer.

Republicans submitted theirs right after taking control of Congress in January 2011. When did they have the power to submit one prior? Ryan's plan was much higher than 1.1 trillion in spending cuts.

Yes, debt service is around 200 billion a year with these low interest rates, 1.1 trillion divided by 10 = 110 billion
 
I understand that when the GOP was in the Executive in the 1980s and 1990s, the Democrats lied about making the cuts. You have acknowledged that. You are being totally disingenuous in ignoring that fact when you make your faulty comments. A little context helps.

There's nothing honest or accurate about claiming "It's the dems fault" while assigning no blame to the republicans.
 
No, I will not always ignore. Some are lost and will never be found. I don't write for their benefit. I write for the benefit of others. I always have and I always will.

That is good advice, thanks
 
Well, then your comment is meaningless with regards to this discussion. If you wish to talk about Jesus and God, I would suggest you take it to the Religious threads here. There it would be meaningful.

My comment was responsive to the post I responded to. Not my fault that some have problems following the thread.
 
No, the republicans only SAY they want to dramatically cut spending, but when the President offered to do so, the repubs ran out of the room like a bunch of schoolgirls with a spider in their hair

Ah, more lies by Dems. Got it. You want the GOP to fall for them again. No thanks.
 
Congress was totally controlled by the Democrats from January 2007 to January 2011 when the Republicans took over the House. The budget was due prior to October 2010 but democrats didn't want to prevent one because of the election. Democrats could have addressed the current debt crisis anytime in 2009 or 2010 so where was the Obama leadership to push Congress for a plan?

His "push" came in the annual State of the Union address...same as it's always been for every President since the Constitution was ratified. If Congress failed to act expediantly or efficiently, I blame Congress moreso than I do the President. However, like you, I would have liked to have seen him emphasize a sense of urgency more. But how quickly folks forget that Congress was more focused on short-term budget negotiations than long-term budget plans. I'd say Congress kinda had their hands full. But I will agree that had Congress acted sooner (in 2008/2009), maybe there wouldn't have been such a sense of urgency by the time the 112th Congress came into session.
 
I do think that the governator and the presidunce had more influence over the economy than a mayor

aren't you the guy who things the right wing destroyed detroit?

LOL!
 
There's nothing honest or accurate about claiming "It's the dems fault" while assigning no blame to the republicans.

I assess much blame on Republicans. Bush should not have pushed for the bill for prescriptions and No Child Left Behind. Neither of these should be Federal programs. And, I am sure I can find many more. I am the honest one here. You are the one who has continually embraced dishonesty.
 
What does that have to do with the Tread topic although did Obama support TARP? Did Obama spend the 350 billion left him by Bush? You really do hate Republicans, don't you? Interesting coming from someone in a city with 11.9% unemployment and a state run by Democrats that have a similar unemployment rate

The two things that I hate the most are ignorance and hypocracy
 
One of the two leading contenders for the GOP 2012 nomination is obscure to you?!?!?!?!?!

Is has really become quite clear that Leftists have a major difficulty with their comprehension, The words were right in front of you that it was the web site which was obscure. not a political candidate, and you got it wrong! And not only that, another Leftist thought your response was just fine!!! That's truly amazing!

Ten years ago, no mainstream politician was discussing many of the far right actions which have taken place in legislatures around this country in the last few months. You had to go to lew rockwells site and cato and other Right wing libertarian sites to get how they were setting the stage for the attacks on unions and public workers, taking away the right to vote in local communities, imposing economic martial law and other right wing wetdreams which have come true.

Ten years ago the country wasn't entirely mired in debt.

It's the present and future you have to deal with, not ten years ago.
 
I assess much blame on Republicans. Bush should not have pushed for the bill for prescriptions and No Child Left Behind. Neither of these should be Federal programs. And, I am sure I can find many more. I am the honest one here. You are the one who has continually embraced dishonesty.

And what about the TSA, and the HSA? Are the dems responsible for that too?

How about the largest Farms bill in history? And the largest transportation bill? What about the subsidies for highly profitable energy conpanies, like oil and coal?
 
not recently

LOL!

Includes legal tender notes, gold and silver certificates, etc.

The first fiscal year for the U.S. Government started Jan. 1, 1789. Congress changed the beginning of the fiscal year from Jan. 1 to Jul. 1 in 1842, and finally from Jul. 1 to Oct. 1 in 1977 where it remains today.

To find more historical information, visit The Public Debt Historical Information archives.



Date Dollar Amount



09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75

09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49

09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62

09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
 
My comment was responsive to the post I responded to. Not my fault that some have problems following the thread.

Ah, first you believe in being dishonest and now you believe that two wrongs make a right. Have you no shame, sir?
 
Let's just ignore all the parties and try to remember that Rome wasn't built in a day, and it's not going to be repaired in one (term) either.

Funny thing....after Obama's second term and our economic recovery, the same guys will argue that it was all a result of GWB's economic genius. These guys are way too predictable.
 
Here's a few mentions

Google

Are they the only places where you can find cuts? You'd better seek out more because the country is hopelessly in debt and some police departments are already being shut down. The Leftist future is well under way!
 
The two things that I hate the most are ignorance and hypocracy

You should be hard on yourself because both are correctable and you could solve both by doing better research instead of buying whatever leftwing site you read. You don't have 11.9% unemployment? Bush didn't leave 350 billion of TARP to Obama to spend?
 
Is has really become quite clear that Leftists have a major difficulty with their comprehension, The words were right in front of you that it was the web site which was obscure. not a political candidate, and you got it wrong! And not only that, another Leftist thought your response was just fine!!! That's truly amazing!

So you're saying that Bachmann doesn't want to end SS?

That's truly amazing!!!



Ten years ago the country wasn't entirely mired in debt.

Thanks to Clinton, who created a budget surplus that bush* and the republicans quickly squandered

It's the present and future you have to deal with, not ten years ago.

Right, so let's talk about Bill Ayers some more :roll:
 
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