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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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The babies are the rightwingers who say they want to cut spending, but ran like little girls with a spider in their hair when Obama proposed additional spending cuts.


You mean the ones that won't even begin until 2014? Please. And no they weren't "more" by any partisan hack interpretation.
 
So two personal blogs and some equally obscure Left Wing site is a "plan to end Social Security"?

It is being discussed, certainly, and as it should be in order the get America's fiscal house in some sort of order, but there is no serious plan. Do you really not understand the seriousness of your situation?

I did not know that the republican running for president, Bachmann, ran an obscure Left Wing blog. Will wonders ever cease? :roll:
 
You don't, I live in TX. You seem to be confused over state and federal taxes and responsibility. You really should learn what your tax dollars fund and who? Obama must be proud, look at this LA Resident that bought into the Obama rhetoric of shared sacrifice and believe the people of LA with their taxes funds the services in TX. Wow, how did we get so far off track in our education system?

For the liberals on this thread that seem to have a problem understanding the Federal Budget line items and have never gone to the Treasury Website. Here is where your taxdollars are going. Now read it and feel free to ask questions. Note that SS and Medicare are NOT in a lock box and are ON Budget?

Obama's Fiscal Year 2010 budget

Defense 696.1
International Affairs 45.2
Gen. Science, Space 30.9
Energy 11.5
Natural resources/env 41.6
Agriculture 23.2
Commerce 30.1
Transportation 92.5
Community Dev 24.5
Education/Train/Social 125.1
Health 369.0
Medicare 451.6
Income Security 624.0
Social Security 706.7
Veterans Benefits 108.4
Justice 55.2
General Govt. 18.1
Net Interest 196.9


Total 3650.6
 
We will also discuss the economic policies of the right, which got us into this mess. Don't like it?

Too bad

It would be more constructive to discuss the problem of the moment and what the American people can do about it.

They can continue to borrow and spend but soon the result will be the Germany mark of the early 1920's.


You can try to get 'the rich' to pay for unsustainable social programs, but they'll either leave or eventually run out of money.

You can cut government spending, such as poetry contests for cowboys, and try to pay off the debts.

Some hard decisions are going to have to be made and Barrack Obama is clearly not the person to make them. He's wildly out of his depth.
 
The babies are the rightwingers who say they want to cut spending, but ran like little girls with a spider in their hair when Obama proposed additional spending cuts.

It demonstrates just how phony the big right wing build up to this was with telling us that the national debt was the biggest problem we had to face as a nation. The President calls their bluff and all of the sudden its not the debt anymore - its just spending that is the problem.

freaking hypocrites in empty suits drooling and spitting up on themselves would be too good of a characterization of their 'leaders' like Can't..er.
 
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Have you any idea what happened to the financial markets in the late summer of 2007? Events that began to run downhill then culmulnated in the collaspe in the housing market of 2008. From the book, "Too Big to Fail", by Andrew Ross Sorkin, pages 89 and 90, referring to events as they began to unfold beginning on August 7, 2007:



As I've stated from the very beginning of the housing crisis, CORPORATE AMERICAN COULD NOT FIX ITSELF! Therefore, it was incumbant upon the Federal Reserve/Treasury to try and fix the mess the private sector created and did not fully understand itself. TARP was that effort to place liquidity back into the private sector, halting short-sells, bring some measure of confidence back into the financial system. The spike you see in domestic spending beginning in 2008 is a direct result of the massive "capital injection plan" the Fed used to stablize the markets and "stop the bleeding".[/QUOTE]

TARP was spent passed in fiscal year 2009 and most of it has been spent and most of it has been repaid. Now what?
 
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Unless we can present an officially notarized and cetrified 567 page detailed plan signed by the Boner and Chinless McConnell in their own blood, it will mean nothing to them.

Wrong. It will still mean nothing to them. I see cries of "RINO" in their future
 
I did not know that the republican running for president, Bachmann, ran an obscure Left Wing blog. Will wonders ever cease? :roll:

Then Michelle Bachmann has a plan to wean people off social security.

You feel this is a bad idea?
 
It demonstrates just how phony the big right wing build up to this was with telling us that the national debt was the biggest problem we had to face as a nation. The President calls their bluff and all of the sudden its not the debt anymore - its just spending that is the problem.

freaking hypocrites in empty suits drooling and spitting up on themselves would be too good of a characterization of their 'leaders' like Can't..er.




Actually, it's the American people who state the budget is too big and we need to reduce spending, Heck I believe even you conceded this point at least once. Fact is now, only one side is actually trying to live within thier means, it's the ignorant far left extremists like Obama who thinks when you are in debt, more debt is the answer.
 
All I really needed to hear. Pretty much discredits your entire position, no?

Ever run a business? It doesn't discredit it at all. I believe we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem but if you have a revenue problem you start by going after those who pay nothing now and you focus on stimulating private sector job creation so that 24 million unemployed and underemployed people get back to work paying full taxes. How much tax revenue are you getting from them?
 
Then Michelle Bachmann has a plan to wean people off social security.

You feel this is a bad idea?

Its such a big idea that I think she and ALL republicans should run on it and make it the centerpiece of their campaigns.
 
It would be more constructive to discuss the problem of the moment and what the American people can do about it.

They can continue to borrow and spend but soon the result will be the Germany mark of the early 1920's.

Borrow and spend was the republican policy under bush*. Now that we have a dem president, borrow and spend is suddenly A Very Bad Thing
 
Actually, it's the American people who state the budget is too big and we need to reduce spending, Heck I believe even you conceded this point at least once. Fact is now, only one side is actually trying to live within thier means, it's the ignorant far left extremists like Obama who thinks when you are in debt, more debt is the answer.

Here is a really radical marxist/leninist/trotskyite/bolsehvik/ leftist/communist idea for you and I know how strange and unbelievable this is going to sound

1) a budget has two sides to it
2) deal with both sides
 
Then Michelle Bachmann has a plan to wean people off social security.

You feel this is a bad idea?

You've changed your argument. Just a short while ago, you were saying that no one was proposing to end SS. Now, it's OK that republicans are proposing to end SS
 
Here is a really radical marxist/leninist/trotskyite/bolsehvik/ leftist/communist idea for you and I know how strange and unbelievable this is going to sound

1) a budget has two sides to it
2) deal with both sides



When does one stop the bleeding...


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When does one think that we may have spent too much?



What's the end game to all this spending?




How much more does the far left wing need to fix this? dollars please.
 
TARP was spent passed in fiscal year 2009 and most of it has been spent and most of it has been repaid. Now what?

Fiscal years go from October 1 of one year onto September 30 of the following year. Therefore, FY2009 began on October 1, 2008. And when was TARP enacted?

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

Wanna try that one again?
 
You've changed your argument. Just a short while ago, you were saying that no one was proposing to end SS. Now, it's OK that republicans are proposing to end SS

What you are doing is not fair. You are using the words of the other side to show they were wrong. Stop that or else. ;)
 
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