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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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Grant said:
It would be less of a problem if there were still state rights, as was originally intended.
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No. It wouldn't. Again, there is really nothing more than lip service to anyone actually wanting to solve the problem, especially in the states. Those who make money, want cheap labor. As long as that is true, there will be a place here for illegals.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Allowing a national default is equivalent to a national dine-and-dash. Whatever you think of the decision that led to your bill, you still have to pay for it.
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I don't think many are aware, or will acknowledge, that the debt ceiling issue is about paying our past spending obligations. They think it has to do with future spending.
 
Boo Radley said:
Anyone who honestly buys into that type of thinking needs a helmet.
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If one has the beliefs you do I can see your point. Obama fans are never going to claim he is a marxist and real marxists (text book definition versus the commonly used version) are upset that Obama is not a hard core communist, more of a luke warm welfare socialist. However, Obama is closer to marxism than most of the presidents we have had in the last 50 years-far more left than Slick Willy or the other truly incompetent dem (Jimmy Carter)
 
Grant said:
Really? Where are your areas of disagreement?

You feel its okay to change another person's postngs?
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I didn't say that. I said anyone who buys into the thinking that the president of the US is a Marxist needs a helmet. Kind of the same with Bush was a Facist. It is rather stupid thinking. And it really hinders any meaningful debate.

Now, if you actually change someone's post, making it look like the poster actually said something they didn't, that's something that should be stopped and delt with. if as many here have done, you reply and in the reply box make a change you note as a change, well, it may well be silly, annoying, even childish in some cases, and certainly not productive. But, that happens here a fair bit.
 
TurtleDude said:
If one has the beliefs you do I can see your point. Obama fans are never going to claim he is a marxist and real marxists (text book definition versus the commonly used version) are upset that Obama is not a hard core communist, more of a luke warm welfare socialist. However, Obama is closer to marxism than most of the presidents we have had in the last 50 years-far more left than Slick Willy or the other truly incompetent dem (Jimmy Carter)
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Only in delusional land.
 
LesGovt said:
I understand that English is often difficult to understand. That's okay. I have now posted the numbers. Have a nice day!
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And you chose only to look at income taxes and not the other taxes that were cut for the wealthy. Imagine that! :sun
 
Boo Radley said:
Only in delusional land.
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as I noted- due to your mantra and your leftist philosophy you believe that. I reject your beliefs and your conclusion but I don't doubt your sincerity. for you to claim he is delusional is your opinion that can neither be proved nor disproved.
 
Catawba said:
And you chose only to look at income taxes and not the other taxes that were cut for the wealthy. Imagine that! :sun
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Remind me of the relevance of that point the rich now pay a higher share of the federal income tax than at any time since you have been alive and then some
 
TurtleDude said:
as I noted- due to your mantra and your leftist philosophy you believe that. I reject your beliefs and your conclusion but I don't doubt your sincerity. for you to claim he is delusional is your opinion that can neither be proved nor disproved.
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Again, only in delusional land. Said the same thing about the Bush is a Facist. You guys on the extremes, are delusionaly extreme. :coffeepap
 
sangha said:
So you're saying that the dems support smaller tax cuts?

I'll add that to The List of Things Everybody Knows

Thanks for your contribution
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Oh, I'm sorry dear... I was saying a little context never hurts, but silly me for rattling off so many two-syllable words at you. Though next time, don't forget you can always use the dictionary (that big book of words)!
 
Originally Posted by Grant -
"I do believe in greedom, and so do the wealthy."

Boo Radley said:
Very funny typo. ;)
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I believe it is called a freudian slip. :sun
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, only in delusional land. Said the same thing about the Bush is a Facist. You guys on the extremes, are delusionaly extreme. :coffeepap
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You are as extreme left as I am "extreme Right". Its a silly comment as is your claim of someone being delusional because they use "marxist" more loosely than you do
 
TurtleDude said:
Remind me of the relevance of that point the rich now pay a higher share of the federal income tax than at any time since you have been alive and then some
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All of us with disposable income pay more income tax than at anytime in history. What does thay have to do with the weakening of our progressive tax system?
 
Boo Radley said:
I didn't say that. I said anyone who buys into the thinking that the president of the US is a Marxist needs a helmet. Kind of the same with Bush was a Facist. It is rather stupid thinking. And it really hinders any meaningful debate.

Now, if you actually change someone's post, making it look like the poster actually said something they didn't, that's something that should be stopped and delt with. if as many here have done, you reply and in the reply box make a change you note as a change, well, it may well be silly, annoying, even childish in some cases, and certainly not productive. But, that happens here a fair bit.
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It shouldn't happen at all. That's how the honor system breaks down.
 
Catawba said:
All of us with disposable income pay more income tax than at anytime in history. What does thay have to do with the weakening of our progressive tax system?
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you are not being honest many of those who are not paying federal income taxes have disposable income.
 
what about all the folks who don't earn a dime, and simply live off their inherited or earned wealth from past years?

billionaires not paying taxes is frightening.
 
Boo Radley said:
Only in delusional land.
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Perhaps his relationship with Bill Ayers suggested the charges, as well as his apparent willingness to destroy the American economy.

Didn't Barrack Obama ever have any friends who weren't bat**** crazy?
 
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