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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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This isn't completley true, most of these "Cuts" wouldn't take effect until 2014 or later..... that would be a shell game, not a compromise.

So you want to be debt free tomorrow without raisng revenues. Good luck with that paticular pie in the sky! :sun
 
They did the same thing with Reagan and then did the exact opposite. It's not going to be bought this time.

Then I would suggest putting it in writing in the form of a debt reduction bill. You have a problem with that?
 
What the far right can't understand is how clueless many of you Americans are.

Thanks for your personal opinion! :sun
 
So you want to be debt free tomorrow without raisng revenues. Good luck with that paticular pie in the sky! :sun



What is the end game here? Continue to raise the debt ceiling, continue to tax "the rich" dispraportionatley, for what end?


I think I read somewhere if you taxed "the rich" 100% you would have 11 days.... that's it....


I think most of this is class envy and desire to get something folks do not deserve.

Cut the spending. you want to open the wound further to stop the bleeding, someday, enough is enough, today is that day.
 
Then I would suggest putting it in writing in the form of a debt reduction bill. You have a problem with that?

Yes, next years Congress can simply write another bill overriding this one.
 
The reality is that Obama is trying to do the responsible thing and actually work towards a solution. The party of No would rather play politics. Thankfully the American people are seeing the gamesmanship.

Obama is right in saying that it cannot be accomplished by spending cuts alone. Republicans prefer to address the issue with cuts to the poor and elderly...saying leave the wealthiest among us alone.
 
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The reality is that Obama is trying to do the responsible thing and actually work towards a solution. The party of No would rather play politics. Thankfully the American people are seeing the gamesmanship.

Obama is right in saying that it cannot be accomplished by spending cuts alone. Republicans prefer to address the issue with cuts to the poor and elderly...saying leave the wealthiest among us alone.



So, "don't call my bluff", "there must be tax increases", and "the debt ceilign must be raised", in order to negotiate, is "Compromise" and "working towards a solution"?


I think it was obama who threw a tantrum, sceamed "no" and left the table, no?
 
So, "don't call my bluff", "there must be tax increases", and "the debt ceilign must be raised", in order to negotiate, is "Compromise" and "working towards a solution"?


I think it was obama who threw a tantrum, sceamed "no" and left the table, no?

Have you tried "reasoning" with children? Sometimes you cannot talk to two year olds......
 
The reality is that Obama is trying to do the responsible thing and actually work towards a solution. The party of No would rather play politics. Thankfully the American people are seeing the gamesmanship.

Obama is right in saying that it cannot be accomplished by spending cuts alone. Republicans prefer to address the issue with cuts to the poor and elderly...saying leave the wealthiest among us alone.

No, American people know how to run their household budget, and that when money runs dry, it's dry. Obama believes in just signing up for more credit cards, and paying the old cards with the new cards. It's the Obama way.
 
No, American people know how to run their household budget, and that when money runs dry, it's dry. Obama believes in just signing up for more credit cards, and paying the old cards with the new cards. It's the Obama way.

hate to break it to you, that's the AMERICAN way.
 
What is the end game here? Continue to raise the debt ceiling, continue to tax "the rich" dispraportionatley, for what end?


I think I read somewhere if you taxed "the rich" 100% you would have 11 days.... that's it....


I think most of this is class envy and desire to get something folks do not deserve.

Cut the spending. you want to open the wound further to stop the bleeding, someday, enough is enough, today is that day.

It took 3 decades of too much spending and tax cuts for the wealthy to create our debt problem. I will require 30 years of cutting spending and tax cuts to the wealthy to fix. Until we come to that realization things will continue on as they have been.
 
It took 3 decades of too much spending and tax cuts for the wealthy to create our debt problem. I will require 30 years of cutting spending and tax cuts to the wealthy to fix. Until we come to that realization things will continue on as they have been.


So keep raising the debt limit, keep increasing spending, and tax the rich more. This is your "end game"?
 
Yes, next years Congress can simply write another bill overriding this one.

Only if we let them, we have a representative government. The fault is our own. We get the government we deserve! :sun
 
So keep raising the debt limit, keep increasing spending, and tax the rich more. This is your "end game"?

For those with a reading disability, I said we must cut spending and tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. In other words, the reverse of what created our debt problem over the last 3 decades.
 
For those with a reading disability, I said we must cut spending and tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. In other words, the reverse of what created our debt problem over the last 3 decades.



Personal attacks betray your lack of a coherent argument. Also perhaps my comprehension would be better if your sentence structure was more proper... Are you suggesting cut tax cuts as in raising taxes or are you suggesting tax cuts.....


Please try again, and if you would like to insult me, please have all your ducks in a row first, thank you.
 
Personal attacks betray your lack of a coherent argument. Also perhaps my comprehension would be better if your sentence structure was more proper... Are you suggesting cut tax cuts as in raising taxes or are you suggesting tax cuts.....


Please try again, and if you would like to insult me, please have all your ducks in a row first, thank you.

Reduce spending and eliminate the tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. That would reverse the 30 year practice that created our debt. Clear enough for ya?
 
Reduce spending and eliminate the tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. That would reverse the 30 year practice that created our debt. Clear enough for ya?



I like your double speak, why can't you be honest and say "raise taxes on the rich"?
 
I like your double speak, why can't you be honest and say "raise taxes on the rich"?

Because we would just be eliminating the temporary tax cuts passed during the Bush Administration. They were never meant to be permanent (that is why they were passed with an expiration date). Why can't you be honest about that?
 
Because we would just be eliminating the temporary tax cuts passed during the Bush Administration. They were never meant to be permanent (that is why they were passed with an expiration date). Why can you be honest about that?


So what is it 3%? 10%? what is it? how again will that fix the whole issue? :lamo
 
I like your double speak, why can't you be honest and say "raise taxes on the rich"?

What Catawba said is precisely accurate. These are temporary tax cuts set to expire. The question is not whether to keep taxes as they are or raise them. The question is whether to allow the tax cuts to expire as intended or extend the tax cuts.
 
So what is it 3%? 10%? what is it? how again will that fix the whole issue? :lamo

Go back and read what I actually said. I said it will take 30 years of spending cuts and eliminating the tax cuts for the wealthy to reverse our debt problem created by 30 years of spending too much and our tax cuts for the wealthy.
 
Go back and read what I actually said. I said it will take 30 years of spending cuts and eliminating the tax cuts for the wealthy to reverse our debt problem created by 30 years of spending too much and our tax cuts for the wealthy.




30 years of "eliminating tax cuts"? :lamo

So what rate do you want the more successful to pay compared to you?
 
Then I would suggest putting it in writing in the form of a debt reduction bill. You have a problem with that?

They did the same thing with Reagan and then did the exact opposite. It's not going to be bought this time.

And, don't forget what they did to President George H.W. Bush. They said $3 cuts per each $1 tax. Taxes were raised and the lying Dems cut 27 cents.

You know that you can trust a Democrat to be a Democrat.
 
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