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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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The first graph shows job growth trending upwards under a Democratic House. The 2nd shows the job growth trend after the repubs took over the House.

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hmm...

what's missing from those graphs?

LOL!
 
You mean other than cherry-picking the data for the democrats which could just as easily shown 25 months of straight decline?

Or the fact that even when cherry picking the best data you could find, you still altered the scale on the GOP graph so the Feb/Mar/Apr bars wouldn't completely dwarf everything in the Democrat graph?

"What is the difference??" You may as well have asked to be slapped.

1) There's no cherry picking. The 1st chart shows the months leading up to the dems losing the House, and the 2nd shows the months after the dems lost the House. Guess which one is trending upwards, and which one is trending downwards?

2) You can't find 25 months of straight decline.

3) The chart clearly shows the # of jobs gained in each month. And it has nothing to do with dwarfing any #s. The chart shows a clear trend both before and after the repubs took control of the House
 
You think I'm going to argue against the idea that reagan was a dope who got snookered? :lol:

He did get snookered by lying, dishonest, and cheating Democrats. I take it you are proud of the lies and dishonesty. This is exactly why the GOP must stay firm this time. One cannot trust any Democrat to keep his word. That has been proven more than once on this very issue. Thanks for finally acknowledging the truth.
 
He did get snookered by lying, dishonest, and cheating Democrats. I take it you are proud of the lies and dishonesty. This is exactly why the GOP must stay firm this time. One cannot trust any Democrat to keep his word. That has been proven more than once on this very issue. Thanks for finally acknowledging the truth.

Liblady, are you now prepared to accept the truth?
 
He did get snookered by lying, dishonest, and cheating Democrats. I take it you are proud of the lies and dishonesty. This is exactly why the GOP must stay firm this time. One cannot trust any Democrat to keep his word. That has been proven more than once on this very issue. Thanks for finally acknowledging the truth.

Waitaminute!!!

Are you trying to say that there are politicians who lie????

Who wouldve guessed that? :roll:
 
Waitaminute!!!

Are you trying to say that there are politicians who lie????

Who wouldve guessed that? :roll:

And you seem to approve. Should we have guessed that?
 
Waitaminute!!!

Are you trying to say that there are politicians who lie????

Who wouldve guessed that? :roll:

EXTRA! EXTRA! Read all about it. Sangha agrees that Democrats LIE![

Moral of the story. When it comes to raising taxes in exchange for spending cuts, don't believe Democrats. Why? Because Sangha said they lie. And, he appears to be proud of it.
 


EXTRA! EXTRA! Read all about it. Sangha agrees that Democrats LIE![

Moral of the story. When it comes to raising taxes in exchange for spending cuts, don't believe Democrats. Why? Because Sangha said they lie. And, he appears to be proud of it.

Both parties lie. Maybe the rightwing hasn't noticed this yet. That's why they still support the republicans

Remember "Read my lips...No new taxes"???

Now the republicans are saying "Read my lips...We will cut spending"
 
Both parties lie. Maybe the rightwing hasn't noticed this yet. That's why they still support the republicans

Remember "Read my lips...No new taxes"???

Now the republicans are saying "Read my lips...We will cut spending"

Yes indeed! Bush, like his predecessor, did not learn the lesson about lying, dishonest Democrats. Something you are indeed very proud of. This year and next, the GOP has to have learned that lesson.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times, blow my head off.
 
read my lips

republicans pass ryan

six trillion, baby
 
Yes indeed! Bush, like his predecessor, did not learn the lesson about lying, dishonest Democrats. Something you are indeed very proud of.

Reagan fell for it 11 times!!! And then so did bush*!!!

You must be proud
 
Reagan fell for it 11 times!!! And then so did bush*!!!

You must be proud

I am proud of their efforts to do the right thing. I am not proud when they are duped by lying, dishonest Democrats. It truly is a shame they did not understand how much liberals and Democrats lie and are dishonest. Those Dems were probably as proud of their lying as you are. There is no shame in the party of the Democrats.
 
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Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times, blow my head off.

What happens when you get fooled 11 times?


No, I am not proud of their efforts to do the right thing. It truly is a shame they did not understand how much liberals and Democrats lie and are dishonest. Those Dems were probably as proud of their lying as you are. There is no shame in the party of the Democrats.

Just how dumb does someone have to be to get fooled 11 times?

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Even Charlie Brown is capable of learning
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I honestly do not see anything wrong with raising taxes. No I don't like taxes, but I am obligated to pay for the spending. I cannot expect the next generation to pay for them or feel good about borrowing foreign money to cover my own yearly spending. It's wrong, just morally wrong. If I spend 100 I will pay 100 tax to cover it. If we don't pay taxes to cover our spending we are essentially been irresponsible people who spend and spend but just borrow from younger generation or foreign creditors. People who do not like to raising national debt, should talk about paying taxes. I'm not talking about paying more than the government needs, just your share that you spent for that year. No more no less. I don't understand how republicans can talk about lowering national debt while give out tax cuts, it's like talking about lower dependence on foreign oil while encourage using gas gulping v8 engines in every car. It's self contradictory.
 
Everything. They are working hard to destroy the economy because McConnels #1 priority is making sure that Obama is a 1 term president, instead of doing his job and making the economy priority #1, and Cantor is actually betting that the economy fails.
We are all responsible for making sure that the one term Marxist president Obama is replaced by anyone, preferably, a conservative natural born American.
 
We are all responsible for making sure that the one term Marxist president Obama is replaced by anyone, preferably, a conservative natural born American.

Look, I understand how you feel, but let's nut go nuts. He's socialist, not marxist. Although pinko commie is a fun phrase.
 
Haha, where do you keep finding this crap?
  • Are we supposed to believe that a 38.6% tax creates almost no jobs, but a 39.6% tax creates huge amounts of jobs?
  • That 35% is the magic number for no jobs, and 28-31% will get you some jobs?
And what's up with these ranges anyway?
  • Why do you bother to but the 38.6% number on the chart (in effect for one year) -- and not put the 92% tax bracket on the chart, which was in effect for two years?
  • Is it because at 92% tax, there was negative job growth (-1.0), so you hide that in a 90+ category?
  • You wouldn't be using ranges for the high income tax brackets because you know that job creation goes up predictably with a few blips during recessions, and by averaging out over long periods of time you're guaranteed a nice, high value... nahh, couldn't be.
Why 1950-2010?
  • Is it because including the 63% and 73% tax brackets from the 1930's and the pitiful growth associated with that period would destroy the illusion you're trying to put together?

Those folks at the Center for American Progress are a real class act.
 
What happens when you get fooled 11 times?




Just how dumb does someone have to be to get fooled 11 times?

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Even Charlie Brown is capable of learning
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Excellent illustrations for describing liberals' spending cut promises.
 
What happens when you get fooled 11 times?

Just how dumb does someone have to be to get fooled 11 times?

I have no idea, but when it comes to virtue and sin, I would, by far, prefer to be dumb over lying and dishonest.
 
We are all responsible for making sure that the one term Marxist president Obama is replaced by anyone, preferably, a conservative natural born American.

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What do you mean?? this is his birth certificate :lamo
 
Why haven't they introduced any jobs bills?
Didn't the house approve repealing Obamacare? Wouldn't that be a massive jobs bill? Imagine taking the government's jackboot off the neck of businesses.
 
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