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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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Sgt Meowenstein said:
Ok, so 3 trillion isn't enough for the GOP to give just a little itty bit on revenue? Are you one of those that thinks negotiating means one side gets everything they want?
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I just have to smile.

The right answer is that the American people lose if taxes are raised. And conversely, the American people win if the size of government is cut. So let's cut and cut and cut.
 
BDBoop said:
They should lock the President, House and Senate up somewhere and not let them touch base or get feed back from anybody. No media. Vote. Vote again. Vote some more. No agreement? Too bad, so sad. You're not leaving that room.
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LOL. The nation wins if the Republicans just walk away. No voting is required. Just cut, cut, cut.
The one term Marxist president has no options if the Republicans just walk away. So I hope they will talk and talk and talk but make no agreements to raise taxes.

The let the one term Marxist president stew in his own juices.
 
I don't think that term, "marxist" means what you think it does
 
Ikari said:
We allowed the government to operate in this frivolous mode, it's time to pay the piper. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
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Then perhaps the best thing to do is to get the people who got the free lunch (meaning receiving benefits without paying taxes) to begin paying for those lunches. We have about half of Americans who do not pay any Federal income taxes. Let's broaden the tax base by adding them to the taxpayer rolls.
 
Misterveritis said:
Then perhaps the best thing to do is to get the people who got the free lunch (meaning receiving benefits without paying taxes) to begin paying for those lunches. We have about half of Americans who do not pay any Federal income taxes. Let's broaden the tax base by adding them to the taxpayer rolls.
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great point-if those leaches had to pay for the government spending they want I suspect they would not be so quick to vote for big spending pimps who pander to them
 
randel said:
and the democrats shouldnt agree to anything without the republicans coughing up major concessions
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I hope that neither side budges. But if the one term Marxist president wants compromise then let him propose massive spending cuts. And we will agree to them. Then offer cuts of our own.
 
Misterveritis said:
Then perhaps the best thing to do is to get the people who got the free lunch (meaning receiving benefits without paying taxes) to begin paying for those lunches. We have about half of Americans who do not pay any Federal income taxes. Let's broaden the tax base by adding them to the taxpayer rolls.
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Tax the poor. You heard it here first.
 
rocket88 said:
Tax the poor. You heard it here first.
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everyone should pay something in terms of income tax if the dems are serious about decreasing the deficit

dems ignore the fact that there are sound reasons for this beyond actual revenue

too many people are disconnected from the reality that government spending costs money.

too many people have been seduced into thinking that the rich are responsible for bearing all the spending burdens and paying most of the taxes

that is why so many voters continually vote for more spending-they figure they don't have to pay the taxes to fund that crap
 
Misterveritis said:
I just have to smile.

The right answer is that the American people lose if taxes are raised. And conversely, the American people win if the size of government is cut. So let's cut and cut and cut.
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Then the American people should be smiling today,because Obama proposed reducing the deficit by $4 trillion (which the weeper had originally proposed)now the weeper has it in reverse.Kinda sad really.:lamo
 
BDBoop said:
Guess it's time to write my President and tell him he has my full support, and he best not blink.
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Great idea! I support you completely. Now let's hope the Republican leadership stands firm as well. Then on August 2nd we will have the New Independence Day. If the debt ceiling is not raised the one term Marxist president will be forced to pay the debts. And then he can only spend at rate equal to the rate that money is coming in. Instant cuts! Massive, sustained. Complete.
 
Thunder said:
this idiotic claim is supported by the majority of the American people.
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I suppose that is what is meant by the tyranny of the majority. Or three wolves and two sheep voting on what's for dinner.
 
Misterveritis said:
I suppose that is what is meant by the tyranny of the majority. Or three wolves and two sheep voting on what's for dinner.
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or ten parasites who move into a community and vote away the wealth of the 4 people who actually pay taxes
 
Thunder said:
ah, so you want to end direct popular election of the Senate?
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This is worthy of discussion. I would like to see it. Let's let the governors propose and their legislatures provide advice and consent.
 
Thunder said:
yes, because violence is the only way to deal with political disagreements.
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sometimes the best way to deal with scum is to cut through the crap. Ask Osama Bin Laden how effective that can be
 
Misterveritis said:
This is worthy of discussion. I would like to see it. Let's let the governors propose and their legislatures provide advice and consent.
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It would restore some balance to the federalist system that worked well until the "progressives" had a big hissy fit-the same asswipes who brought us class warfare in the guise of the income tax and prohibition
 
upsideguy said:
Of course it won't.... but it is a powerful tool in the toolbag, and you are not going to solve the deficit without it. People that refuse to consider tax increases are not serious about the deficit.
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I think you can solve the deficit quite nicely without any tax increases. But if we must have them let's widen the tax base so that everyone pays some federal income taxes.

Alternative let's allocate votes based on the amount of taxes one pays. If you pay not taxes you don't get a vote on spending the money.
 
Misterveritis said:
I think you can solve the deficit quite nicely without any tax increases. But if we must have them let's widen the tax base so that everyone pays some federal income taxes.

Alternative let's allocate votes based on the amount of taxes one pays. If you pay not taxes you don't get a vote on spending the money.
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that is a good alternative and would prevent ten fleas and five ticks from voting away every drop of the dog's blood. You are gonna get some hysterical howling from one vocal supporter of parasite rights though
 
Misterveritis said:
Let us only hope this is the case. No compromise. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut.


Let us hope that the one term Marxist president Obama will stand fast. Then let's hope the Republicans also stand fast.

What do we get? August 2nd we get the New Independence Day. The one term Marxist president Obama has to pay our debts. After that he cannot spend what the nation does not have. I love it.
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hmmm have to pay our debts...ok....what do we let go? social security checks don't go out/are late, military doesnt get paid(i'm sure this will go over well with both of these groups, will turn the 2nd tuesday of nov 2012 into 'judgement day' for republicans)...what else...infrastructure spending(really, our bridges/roads will last without upkeep)...i have to chuckle when someone here hopes/prays this to pass without a deal being done....'cause they have no idea the havoc it will cause.
 
Ikari said:
Cuts must be made
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Agreed.
Ikari said:
and taxes raised.
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Well. You are half right.

Fortunately in order for America to win the Republicans need do...nothing. They should not make a deal if it means raising taxes. They can talk, talk, talk until August 2nd. And I hope they will. But they should not, under any circumstance agree to raise taxes. If they do then the one term Marxist president will be forced to pay our debts, on the one hand, and compelled to cut spending on the other. Awesome!
 
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