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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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sangha said:
No, radical change from the right to bring back slavery, poll taxes, denying american citizens the vote and their jobs
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This thread is dying. that sort of idiotic hyperbolic BS is too much
 
Ikari said:
Tax loopholes keep the uber rich secure.
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Loopholes that allow us to pay 40% of the taxes while making 22% of the income

the real loopholes allow the bottom 95% to claim the top 5% don't pay enough taxes when the top 5% pay more than everyone else combined

its time for people like you to stop freeloading
 
TurtleDude said:
This thread is dying. that sort of idiotic hyperbolic BS is too much
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HAHAHA, you said it brother. But I'm not sure you understand how close to your own remark you fall.
 
Ikari said:
Tax loopholes keep the uber rich secure. That and tax payer funded subsidies and very generous laws set in their favor. All brought to you by the Republocrats. Who remind you, don't ask question!
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the uber rich are kept secure by tax policies that prevent frugal hardworking people from accumulating wealth due to the death tax and income taxes
 
TurtleDude said:
dems were the party of slavery and currently the party of slavery through entitlement addiction, affirmative action and the racism of lowered expectations
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and the dem party was the rightwing party back then. Now, the R's are the rightwingers, and they want to go back to slavery, poll taxes, denying people the right to vote
 
Ikari said:
Is this an attempt at irony? TSA supporters telling me that freedom scares me? HA.
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where do you get the idea I support the TSA

do some research on this forum
 
TurtleDude said:
Loopholes that allow us to pay 40% of the taxes while making 22% of the income

the real loopholes allow the bottom 95% to claim the top 5% don't pay enough taxes when the top 5% pay more than everyone else combined

its time for people like you to stop freeloading
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I don't freeload. I pay my own taxes. I'm just looking to make everything equal. Income is income, and should be taxed accordingly. I'm not the one stalling economic recovery and aid to the People who need it to ensure tax loopholes for the uber rich.
 
Hatuey said:
The same thing that would happen if they were getting richer. They'd lock their money away in investments, bonds, stocks, etc. None of which create jobs in any demonstratable form.
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And they'd invest their money creating jobs....in China, and India, and everywhere but here
 
Ikari said:
I don't freeload. I pay my own taxes. I'm just looking to make everything equal. Income is income, and should be taxed accordingly. I'm not the one stalling economic recovery and aid to the People who need it to ensure tax loopholes for the uber rich.
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you get a vote, I get a vote

you should pay the same amount of taxes as me if you want equality
 
TurtleDude said:
the uber rich are kept secure by tax policies that prevent frugal hardworking people from accumulating wealth due to the death tax and income taxes
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There is truth in this statement, but I'm not sure it's the truth you wanted to call up. As I said, the days were a man can pull himself up by the bootstraps and become wealthy through innovation, intelligence, and hard work is nearly over.

If you're suggesting an actual return to true free market capitalism instead of this ****astic corporate capitalist model we've accepted; we'd be in agreement. But that's a few steps away and may be unreachable due to Republocrat obstruction.
 
Bassman said:
It's only "radical" to the Left because they're used to the government being their mommy and daddy.
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The right can't even admit to their own principles. If they don't stand for their principles, they will fall for anything....and they do
 
sangha said:
The fascists are the republicans who want corporations to have unfettered power over the people
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Hey ****-For-Brains. Get this. ALL urban areas that have been run by Liberals like you have been in the crapper for decades. Is that what you envision for the country, fascist piece of ****??
 
TurtleDude said:
you get a vote, I get a vote

you should pay the same amount of taxes as me if you want equality
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My tax system would probably be a lot different than what we have now. But within the model we currently run, all income should count as income; regardless of source.
 
TurtleDude said:
the uber rich want higher taxes-it keeps them secure and ingrates them to people like you
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One minute, people who want higher taxes don't have what it takes. Now, it keeps them secure

If you wont stand for your own arguments, you fail at everything
 
Moderator's Warning:
Bassman is now thread banned. Going through this thread in depth now, more may be following. I suggest you all calm it down.
 
TurtleDude said:
the uber rich are kept secure by tax policies that prevent frugal hardworking people from accumulating wealth due to the death tax and income taxes
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One minute, you're saying that the top %5 are not static. The next minute, they are static and secure

If you won't stand for your own arguments, you fail at everything
 
Bassman said:
Hey ****-For-Brains. Get this. ALL urban areas that have been run by Liberals like you have been in the crapper for decades. Is that what you envision for the country, fascist piece of ****??
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All urban areas that have been run by rightwingers have been in the crapper for decades. Higher rates of abortion, teen pregnancy, welfare, poverty, etc

Thats what the right envisions for this nation
 
Ikari said:
Tax loopholes keep the uber rich secure. That and tax payer funded subsidies and very generous laws set in their favor. All brought to you by the Republocrats. Who remind you, don't ask question!
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Which loopholes would those be?
 
I request all moderators and website administrators to proceed with the elimination of Bassman's account. His continous slandering and name calling of other users is undermining the quality of the debate and turning this place into a tavern instead of a serious political forum where one can debate with a minimum of civility.
 
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