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Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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BS. They voted for them because they claimed that they would focus on jobs and the economy. As anybody can see, they have done nothing of the sort. All they've done so far is focus on abortion and gays, and as far as the economy is concerned, they've only made investors and employers feel more uncertain because of the GOP's unwillingness to negotiate with Dems on the budget and the debt ceiling, which actually risks making the economy worse.

You forgot the tax pledge that was signed before the elections. Employers don't want the debt ceiling raised. They know that the tax man will be coming after them for it. Yes, investors do want it raised. Who can blame them after the billions they were gave the last 3 years.
 
No, you don't get it.

After whinging about how tax cuts spur the economy, I have shown the rightwingers that the facts do not support THEIR claims

The rightwingers say tax cuts create jobs - the charts show they didn't
The rightwingers say tax cuts grow the economy- the charts show they didn't

If tax cuts create jobs, then where are the jobs? bush* cut taxes, and no jobs were created.

you are confused

I support tax cuts for several reasons

1) the rich pay too much-their taxes should be cut to where they are paying their share which is far less than what they pay now

2) the government is too big-we need to starve it

3) democrats use tax hikes to justify more spending. I want to hurt the dem party since they are contrary to my interests

tax hikes don't create jobs either

in fact you can only support tax hikes if you can prove they help and you cannot
 
Taxes need to be raised, especially on the richest among us. Period. If you don't agree, you're not a patriot. Now it's your turn to show people you're prepared to sacrifice. Think about it. If the situation worsens, radical ideologies may sprout up and then your wealth will be much more in danger than before, because when people are desperate, they elect radical governments that take radical steps to fix the problems. You don't want the Government freezing or confiscating your accounts, so please don't let the economy reach a point of no return. You've been warned.

And if you think depositing your wealth on foreign accounts is going to help, consider that a US default could plunge the whole world into chaos. With no one to protect you or no one to turn to, most of the world going hungry and desperate, you'll be defenseless and you'll lose everything you have.
 
again, its fun watching Cons derail the debate.

hey Turtledude, can you show us any times in history where tax-cuts caused job-growth?

how about any times in history where lower tax-rates for the wealthy led to increased economic activity?

It seems your posts are doing that
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059643708 said:
Taxes need to be raised, especially on the richest among us. Period. If you don't agree, you're not a patriot. Now it's your turn to show people you're prepared to sacrifice. Think about it. If the situation worsens, radical ideologies may sprout up and then your wealth will be much more in danger than before, because when people are desperate, they elect radical governments that take radical steps to fix the problems. You don't want the Government freezing or confiscating your accounts, so please don't let the economy reach a point of no return. You've been warned.

And if you think depositing your wealth on foreign accounts is going to help, consider that a US default could plunge the whole world into chaos. With no one to protect you or no one to turn to, most of the world going hungry and desperate, you'll be defenseless and you'll lose everything you have.

47% of the country are traitors then

Your mindset is akin to the one in the quote that follows

(pay more or we will take it from you)
 
you are confused

I support tax cuts for several reasons

1) the rich pay too much-their taxes should be cut to where they are paying their share which is far less than what they pay now

2) the government is too big-we need to starve it

3) democrats use tax hikes to justify more spending. I want to hurt the dem party since they are contrary to my interests

tax hikes don't create jobs either

in fact you can only support tax hikes if you can prove they help and you cannot
The big thing about Democrats and taxes is that they're not so much interested in increased revenue as they are about controlling the populace. Generally, whenever taxes get high, and anyone with half a brain knows this, businesses and people go to where the taxes are lower.
 
Иосиф Сталин;1059643708 said:
Taxes need to be raised, especially on the richest among us. Period. If you don't agree, you're not a patriot. Now it's your turn to show people you're prepared to sacrifice. Think about it. If the situation worsens, radical ideologies may sprout up and then your wealth will be much more in danger than before, because when people are desperate, they elect radical governments that take radical steps to fix the problems. You don't want the Government freezing or confiscating your accounts, so please don't let the economy reach a point of no return. You've been warned.

And if you think depositing your wealth on foreign accounts is going to help, consider that a US default could plunge the whole world into chaos. With no one to protect you or no one to turn to, most of the world going hungry and desperate, you'll be defenseless and you'll lose everything you have.
And thus enters your Communist Paradise, Bolshevik?? Sorry, but we ****canned your sorry asses with the death of the Soviet Union, Russkie!
 
The big thing about Democrats and taxes is that they're not so much interested in increased revenue as they are about controlling the populace. Generally, whenever taxes get high, and anyone with half a brain knows this, businesses and people go to where the taxes are lower.


what do you expect? their master admitted that he would push tax hikes on capital gains for "Fairness" even if it didn't help the economy or increase revenues

its buying votes by catering to envy
 
you are confused

I support tax cuts for several reasons

1) the rich pay too much-their taxes should be cut to where they are paying their share which is far less than what they pay now

2) the government is too big-we need to starve it

3) democrats use tax hikes to justify more spending. I want to hurt the dem party since they are contrary to my interests

tax hikes don't create jobs either

in fact you can only support tax hikes if you can prove they help and you cannot

Nonsense

1) Tax rates on the rich are low
2) According the rightwing, tax cuts result in increased tax revenue which leads to an even BIGGER govt because govt always spends what it has (and then some)
3) Republicrats don't need any justification to raise spending. Both parties increase spending every year. Repubicans have NEVER cut spending in the last 100 years.
 
It seems your posts are doing that

are you EVER going to answer a direct question?

please provide evidence of lowering tax-rates on the rich increasing economic activity.

please provide evidence of lowering tax-rates on the rich lowering the unemployment rate.

thanks.
 
Nonsense

1) Tax rates on the rich are low
2) According the rightwing, tax cuts result in increased tax revenue which leads to an even BIGGER govt because govt always spends what it has (and then some)
3) Republicrats don't need any justification to raise spending. Both parties increase spending every year. Repubicans have NEVER cut spending in the last 100 years.

tax rates on the rich are too high compared to everyone else so stop the nonsense

I don't speak for the "right wing" I speak for myself. I am not a sheep unlike most on the left

both parties suck-the dems suck more

if you are not willing to pay the same percentage of your income in taxes as I do, you have absolutely no standing to demand I pay more
 
what do you expect? their master admitted that he would push tax hikes on capital gains for "Fairness" even if it didn't help the economy or increase revenues

its buying votes by catering to envy
Historically, and we are seeing it right now, businesses are hesitant to create jobs whenever they get assraped on the taxes. Deductions and Credits be damned because they are a small pittance to what they have to pony up.
 
The big thing about Democrats and taxes is that they're not so much interested in increased revenue as they are about controlling the populace. Generally, whenever taxes get high, and anyone with half a brain knows this, businesses and people go to where the taxes are lower.

Yes, the dems want to control people by forbidding them from having abortions, forcing people to pray in schools, forcing people to own guns, forcing people to show their "papers"....

Oh wait!! That's the REPUBLICANS!!
 
Yes, the dems want to control people by forbidding them from having abortions, forcing people to pray in schools, forcing people to own guns, not allowing same-sex marriage, forcing people to show their "papers"....

Oh wait!! That's the REPUBLICANS!!

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and added some for ya.
 
The reason they are opposing tax hikes, is because they know that the reason they gained the majority in The House, is because the People wanted them to oppose tax hikes.

Right. Or because midterm voters are lazy and the far right managed to energize their base.
 
Right. Or because midterm voters are lazy and the far right managed to energize their base.

far right=tired of massive irresponsible spending
 
tax rates on the rich are too high compared to everyone else so stop the nonsense

I don't speak for the "right wing" I speak for myself. I am not a sheep unlike most on the left

both parties suck-the dems suck more

if you are not willing to pay the same percentage of your income in taxes as I do, you have absolutely no standing to demand I pay more

No, tax rates are too low, so stop the nonsense

Everything you 've said is consistent with a rightwing ideology. Deny it if you choose, but everyone else can see the obvious

both parties such, but the repukes suck more

I have every right to petition the govt for a more progressive tax system. Your argument is just another way the rightwing tries to control the populace
 
Yes, the dems want to control people by forbidding them from having abortions, forcing people to pray in schools, forcing people to own guns, forcing people to show their "papers"....

Oh wait!! That's the REPUBLICANS!!
You mean preserving life? Religious freedom anywhere and everywhere?? Second Amendment?? And how about making sure our immigrants are FOLLOWING THE LAW??
 
Historically, and we are seeing it right now, businesses are hesitant to create jobs whenever they get assraped on the taxes. Deductions and Credits be damned because they are a small pittance to what they have to pony up.

Historically, and we are seeing it right now, businesses are hesitant to create jobs taxes are low. Deductions and Credits be damned because they are a small pittance to what they have to pony up
 
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