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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, but your inability to dispute anything I've actually said indicates your lack of any point.
    Well as we are discussing the Obama administration ( Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes ) and not past administrations it would seem more appropriate to discuss the present imbroglio rather than historical disputes. Do you agree?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well as we are discussing the Obama administration ( Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes ) and not past administrations it would seem more appropriate to discuss the present imbroglio rather than historical disputes. Do you agree?
    No, I do not.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, I do not.
    Then you should look for a thread discussing American political history.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    they promised to cut spending and the deficit, and the national debt
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    yup, that graph is definitely at least 6 inches too short

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, the repubs have been clear. Just as clear as they were in 2000, when they promised to cut spending and the deficit, and the national debt. But once elected, the increased spending, the deficit, and the national debt.

    Repubs have almost always spoken clearly.
    truth.

    until now. now it finally almost seems as though we have a set of Congressional Republicans willing to demonstrate the courage of their (supposed) convictions.

    so, of course, we will castigate them on it. because we only pretend to want responsible governance.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The certainty of high debt is greater when the repubs are in charge.
    woops .



    looks like someone isn't aware that (as per the Constitution), spending originates in the House of Representatives:



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    woops .



    looks like someone isn't aware that (as per the Constitution), spending originates in the House of Representatives:


    Woops .

    Looks like some one is unaware that the president submits the budget and has veto power.

    See what I did there?
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    In 8 of the 12 years the Republicans controlled the spending, the deficit went down the following year and the 4 years it went up were all in the years immediately after the 9-11 attack. Despite the huge blow to the economy and the expenses of fighting two wars, deficit spending peaked in 2004 and was declining sharply until the Democrats regained control of the House in 2007.

    Meanwhile, in 18 of the 24 years the Democrats controlled the federal purse strings, the deficit rose the following year....

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Woops .

    Looks like some one is unaware that the president submits the budget and has veto power.

    See what I did there?
    so you are saying yes, it is Obama's fault that our deficit is the size it is, and that we haven't had a budget two years running?

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