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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    oh yes, tax increases.....
    Here we stand in the middle of the Great Bush Depression caused by wars on the credit card and tax cuts and nobody says that. The conservatives want to pretend GWSnotForBrains never happened because he was their conservative hero. You reap what you sow and we are reaping and conservatives know that. Instead of swallowing the turd of their own ineptitude, they attempt to create chaos in government to stop solutions because then Obama might get re-elected. Not by me, I'm voting third party. When you need money, you must increase taxes or jobs that create taxpayers, but not largesse for parasitic Corporations.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Ok, so 3 trillion isn't enough for the GOP to give just a little itty bit on revenue?
    a trillion dollars in tax hikes is not an itty bit. we are here to reduce the size of government, not aid it's growth. and the President did not offer 3 trillion in cuts. he offered "three trillion in cuts"; similar to how Republicans in the 2011 continuing resolution deal got "36 billion in cuts" that later turned out to mean about five hundred million actual dollar reductions. the President counts interest that otherwise would have been paid on debt never accrued as a "spending cut". the President counts not keeping surge - levels in Afghanistan and the already scheduled lowering of troops in Iraq as a "spending cut". this deal isn't 3 to 1, it isn't even 2 to 1. It's not a "spending cut" if you don't actually cut any spending.

    the President wants to put Republicans in a Hobsons' choice - either take massive tax hikes on top of the ones already scheduled, or give him an economic narrative to blame them for his own mismanagement. no thanks.


    Republicans at this point should pass their own debt-ceiling bill through the House. Pair it with cuts that they deem appropriate, and send it on up. If Democrats want to kill it, be it on them.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yeh,we should do the responsible thing and limit the raising of the debt limit to the number of times that the previous occupant of the White House raised it.
    So BHO is only carrying on the policies his predecessor had established, which that makes it OK. And all that Hope and Changey talk was all a scam after all, just as many with IQ's above room temperatures had claimed.

    It seems clear that a new President is required. BHO has obviously failed in every category we can name. The idea that he has enjoyed any measure of success brings a smile to even his most rabid followers familiar with Presidential responsibilities.

    Still, the racism, sexism and the shouting debates over non-issues will become even more heated as the campaigns heighten. Political theater at its best and worst, and most enjoyed from afar.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So BHO is only carrying on the policies his predecessor had established, which that makes it OK. And all that Hope and Changey talk was all a scam after all, just as many with IQ's above room temperatures had claimed.

    It seems clear that a new President is required. BHO has obviously failed in every category we can name. The idea that he has enjoyed any measure of success brings a smile to even his most rabid followers familiar with Presidential responsibilities.

    Still, the racism, sexism and the shouting debates over non-issues will become even more heated as the campaigns heighten. Political theater at its best and worst, and most enjoyed from afar.
    Of course, and the Media will create for you a choice of two truly inept and corrupt individuals to choose from. La de da, ain't it grand. P'haps dem Republicants will find themselves even a black candidate or a pollack. Whatever. It will be the choice between two really, truly bad apples. Just make you hold your breath with anticipation, don't ya think?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK children, playtime is over.
    LOL. I agree. It is time for the Republicans to walk away. Let the House of Representatives pass a bill to cut spending. But no tax increases.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Obama walks out of tense US debt meeting - aide | Reuters

    the president walks out of the meeting today.

    i can't say that i blame him. both sides will have to compromise to get this done.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'm pretty sure it would be viewed as a bipartisan issue by most and not the "fault" of Obama.
    Fine with me. Let him take the action. Let him decide to shut down the government or to pay the appropriate debts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Solution to a budget deficit: increase income, reduce expenditures, a combination of both.

    Are you really that stupid?
    The real right answer is to walk away. Then expenditures will be reduced.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Great idea. I hope the RNC adopts your "tax the poor" policy. I'm sure it will win a lot of votes
    I suppose we would not want to offend the freeloaders, would we?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ...the president walks out of the meeting today.

    i can't say that i blame him. both sides will have to compromise to get this done.
    Really only one side needs to compromise. Any cuts he offers we should accept. Then we should offer a plan of our own. But no tax increases.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. I agree. It is time for the Republicans to walk away. Let the House of Representatives pass a bill to cut spending. But no tax increases.
    Most GOP Voters See Need for Revenue Increases

    A new Gallup Poll finds that just 26% of GOP voters think a deal to lift the debt ceiling should consist entirely of spending cuts.

    The vast majority of Republicans believe that at least some tax revenue increases are necessary, which is contrary to the current position of the Republican congressional leadership.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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