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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Just do the responsible thing and raise the debt limit without conditions.
    Yes, that sounds like a good, responsible idea. You'll be supporting Barack Obama in 2012 then?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that sounds like a good, responsible idea. You'll be supporting Barack Obama in 2012 then?
    Yeh,we should do the responsible thing and limit the raising of the debt limit to the number of times that the previous occupant of the White House raised it.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Balanced budget: Income = Expenditures

    Solution to a budget deficit: increase income, reduce expenditures, a combination of both.

    Are you really that stupid?
    They only stupid people are those who believe that a 3% tax increase on high income earners is going to produce any significant amount of revenue. We don't have tax problem, we have an economy in the toilet and two and half years of ineffective policies and inept leadership.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yeh,we should do the responsible thing and limit the raising of the debt limit to the number of times that the previous occupant of the White House raised it.
    ...because it's the number of times it's been raised that's important, not the level to which it's raised.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK children, playtime is over. The Republicans have lost this issue.
    And the tea party elect are all going to be ex-congress critters come next election.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK children, playtime is over. The Republicans have lost this issue. Its time to tuck tail and get this thing done.
    Yeah, no... I think they'll stick it out until Obama caves, as he's been known to do. The alternative is to continue negotiating and if need be, offer a short term solution. That puts it back in Obama's hands, who is of course free to go along or to collapse the governement and starve seniors. Being President, it's really his choice.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    They only stupid people are those who believe that a 3% tax increase on high income earners is going to produce any significant amount of revenue. We don't have tax problem, we have an economy in the toilet and two and half years of ineffective policies and inept leadership.
    increasing revenue is only a facade that the class warfare types proffer. The real goal is two fold

    1) to try to convince the weakminded that the dems have a way to pay for the increased spending they will engage in

    2) appealing for the votes of the envious



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why not? If you want more of something you subsidize it. If you want less you tax it.
    Do you think that about half of the nation is poor?
    Great idea. I hope the RNC adopts your "tax the poor" policy. I'm sure it will win a lot of votes
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK children, playtime is over. The Republicans have lost this issue. Its time to tuck tail and get this thing done. Raise the debt limit, lick your wounds and live to see another political day. Even the US Chamber of Commerce is saying "no more worry about deficit reduction, tax increases or decreases....just get'er done"

    ".....Chamber President Tom Donohue said in a statement announcing the letter that an “unprecedented default on the nation’s bills would have dire consequences for our economy, our markets, and Main Street Americans....."

    Chamber, Business Groups Warn GOP on Debt Limit Consequences : Roll Call Lobbying

    When are you [Republicans] going to learn that you are getting very bad counsel from the guys at the Tea Party. They look friendly, but they are your worst enemy. You missed an opportunity to get a good deal, but you blew it. Further pursuit of this issue is death to Republicans. Just do the responsible thing and raise the debt limit without conditions.
    The republicans will raise the debt ceiling. Their corporate overloads have decided, and to hell with the Tea Party

    GOP attempts to co-opt Tea Party backfire | ConservativeHQ.com

    Witness the comments of U.S. Chamber of Commerce chief Tom Donohue to Tea Party aligned Congressmen: Raise the debt ceiling or we will get rid of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Well, as an alternative have the House of Representatives pass a spending bull that dramatically cuts spending. Then let the Senate do what they can do. But in the end no tax increases.
    oh yes, tax increases.....

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