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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Your chart means nothing without citation to back up its authenticity. Any jack ass can produce a chart full of misdirection, and lies. Who was that said that there are two liars in this world, that is liars and damned stats.

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I provided the source.
    Your source isn't claimed not to be source but by someone else.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Your source isn't claimed not to be source but by someone else.
    That was just nonsense
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That was just nonsense
    Yes an illustration of your post... I emulated your hundred or so posts today perfectly.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Ryan's plan: Obamacare for seniors. It's highly unpopular, though. Americans aren't going to let you guys dismantle SS and Medicare, no matter how much you salivate over the prosepct. Those unfunded liabilities represent millions of aging Boomers who are reliant on these programs for their continued livelihoods. What will you say to them? Take what we give you and like it?
    I really can't see SS as an entitlement. The government takes payroll taxes out for the exclusive reason to provide for the elderly and disabled when they become disabled or retire. Let me say that once more. The government takes taxes out of every single paycheck for the sole purpose of returning that money when one is no longer able to work or has retired. That does not fit in the definition of an entitlement.

    If you really want to rail about entitlements there are plenty out there, arts, Public broadcasting, yes, even medicare and medicade and welfare. There is a very long list, so why attack SS, which is an agreement between the American taxpayer and the government?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    I really can't see SS as an entitlement. The government takes payroll taxes out for the exclusive reason to provide for the elderly and disabled when they become disabled or retire. Let me say that once more. The government takes taxes out of every single paycheck for the sole purpose of returning that money when one is no longer able to work or has retired. That does not fit in the definition of an entitlement.

    If you really want to rail about entitlements there are plenty out there, arts, Public broadcasting, yes, even medicare and medicade and welfare. There is a very long list, so why attack SS, which is an agreement between the American taxpayer and the government?
    Depends on how you define entitlement. If you mean entitlement with the negative connotation that implies taking advantage of the government, then no it's not an entitlement. If you mean I am ENTITLED to the money you took out of my check, then it absolutely is an entitlement.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Evidence?????
    how about your thousands of posts to begin with?
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    Depends on how you define entitlement. If you mean entitlement with the negative connotation that implies taking advantage of the government, then no it's not an entitlement. If you mean I am ENTITLED to the money you took out of my check, then it absolutely is an entitlement.
    Yeah, I was trying to avoid the negative connotation with that.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    So do you guys think Misterveritis will continue to refer to Obama as 'the one-term president Obama' throughout his second term?
    what's interesting is watching half of the country call Obama a communist while the other half calls him a corporatist.

    at the same time, many of those accusing him of corporatism are employees and consumers of corporate goods, while those who call him a communist are consumers / proponents of building many of our consumer goods in communist nations because American workers are "overpaid" and "lazy" and building things in a capitalist country / employing other capitalists would be protectionist socialism.

    it's a crazy world. someone ought to sell tickets. but then a corporate monopoly would arise to claim all of the tickets, and any effort to rectify the situation would be communism.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    have a simple question, if tax increases are suddenly so important to Obama and the liberal left … then why in the hell didn't they just let the Bush tax cuts expire … they had the majority in the house, the senate .. and a liberal president …. and to top that .. they didn't need a vote .. the cuts were set to expire .. no vote meant that they would have expired .. instead .. democrats voted to extent the very tax cuts they are now wanting to do away with … makes no sense to me .
    You obviously don't follow politics much. Not a single republican would agree to let the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire and a handful of spineless bluedog democrats followed along....and you are missing a key part....Republicans would not agree to allow the tax cuts for the middle and working class remain unless the wealthiest Americans were allowed to an extension as well.....so they did need a vote.

    Essentially the Republicans and the Bluedog Democrats held the middle class and working class hostage and said, unless you agree to tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, we are not going to agree to help the middle/working class. Thus....it is clear who has the interests of the working/middle class at heart and who has the interests of the wealthiest Americans at heart. It isn't too hard to understand.
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