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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Who is serious about cutting the deficit again?
    these days, looking at the 61.6 trillion dollars of unfunded obligation, doubling every ten years, the people who are serious about cutting SPENDING are the people most sober about balance

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to cuomo, rahm, moonbeam, malloy, omalley, quinn, the massachusetts house, the springfield house, the trenton house...
    Tell it the people of Wisconsin. The people of Ohio. My son's K teacher, who's retiring early because of fear of pension cuts. You think she's gonna vote for Kasich next time?

    That's the thing, prof. While the Democrats take these issues seriously and show willingness to compromise, as evidenced by your links, the GOP wants the whole cake.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    thank you

    compromise, eat the whole cake...

    republicans are gonna squeeze every last billionth dollar of REDUCTION we can get

    which is a lot more than has so far been offered or agreed upon

    you'll get your debt ceiling, but you're gonna have to pay

    and the price is RISING

    give it a week

    we got combat boots webb on our side, stiffneck ben nelson---on record

    i personally KNOW how joe manchin from west virginia is gonna come down, jon tester in montana, even jiltin joe lieberman the one time veep candidate...

    i could go on, the votes are simply NOT there for the white house, all histrionics aside

    stay up

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    these days, looking at the 61.6 trillion dollars of unfunded obligation, doubling every ten years, the people who are serious about cutting SPENDING are the people most sober about balance
    Ryan's plan: Obamacare for seniors. It's highly unpopular, though. Americans aren't going to let you guys dismantle SS and Medicare, no matter how much you salivate over the prosepct. Those unfunded liabilities represent millions of aging Boomers who are reliant on these programs for their continued livelihoods. What will you say to them? Take what we give you and like it?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    thank you

    compromise, eat the whole cake...

    republicans are gonna squeeze every last billionth dollar of REDUCTION we can get

    which is a lot more than has so far been offered or agreed upon

    you'll get your debt ceiling, but you're gonna have to pay

    and the price is RISING

    give it a week

    we got combat boots webb on our side, stiffneck ben nelson---on record

    i personally KNOW how joe manchin from west virginia is gonna come down, jon tester in montana, even jiltin joe lieberman the one time veep candidate...

    i could go on, the votes are simply NOT there for the white house, all histrionics aside

    stay up
    You sure do lean on Ben Nelson a lot, prof. He's a man with a mind of his own. To try to make him the poster boy for the Democratic Party is farce.

    Let's be real: The GOP doesn't have the votes either, and Boehner is on record saying the debt limit must be raised. So both parties say its vital to raise the debt limit. Both are behind trillions in spending cuts as part of the deal. So what's the hold up?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Another thing … if your tax and spend policy works so well … then maybe you can explain to me .. while during the Clinton terms … we had the largest tax hike in modern history, we cut defense spending to bare bones … we had the dot com economy that created more millionaires faster then any time in our history, we fought no major wars .. (unless you count the few times Clinton lobbed some bombs around to deflect from being caught lying to the grand jury) and we still.... with all that .. managed to go another 1.5 trillion dollars in debt...? I'll await your answer. ​
    I posted that chart, not to prove that tax hikes were good for the economy, but to disprove the rightwing claim that tax cuts are good for the economy, and job creation.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Americans aren't going to let you guys dismantle SS and Medicare
    whatever's done to entitlements will be done with the imprimatur of the president and his party

    patience

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whatever's done to entitlements will be done with the imprimatur of the president and his party

    patience
    This is true. That's why the repubs are acting like fools. They have a historical opportunity to make large changes in these entitlement programs, and have the dems share in the blame. Instead, they're being petulant
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They have a historical opportunity to make large changes in these entitlement programs
    they sure do!

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I posted that chart, not to prove that tax hikes were good for the economy, but to disprove the rightwing claim that tax cuts are good for the economy, and job creation.
    Your chart means nothing without citation to back up its authenticity. Any jack ass can produce a chart full of misdirection, and lies. Who was that said that there are two liars in this world, that is liars and damned stats.

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