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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    you don't know what you're talking about

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yes. far better if they go out of business so that all of their employees lose their jobs! plus we get the side benefit of higher costs-of-living for poor people. yay!
    False choice. Really it is.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    for those interested, the talks are stuck right now in about this location:

    the president wants 2.4T to get him thru the next election

    the gop is amenable but insists on d4d, dollar for dollar

    they thus are all working furiously, angrily, tensely and dominated by personal hatreds, trying to come up with that 2.4

    they say they have found about 1.7 they can agree on

    1.1T "discretionary"

    200B mandatory, described as cuts to "military pensions" or "farm subsidies"

    200B medicare

    200B saved interest payments

    beyond that, they must come with about 700B more, else the prez has declared he'll veto anything shorter term

    r's will not budge on revenues, that's the way it is

    fyi

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I did some looking, and the origin of the chart seems to be from the Los Angeles Free Net web site. No I am not making that up.
    I've looked them up and can't seem to find out who they are, and who their donor's are....So if that is the case we can not take these numbers seriously.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    False choice. Really it is.
    Call it an educated prediction....We know how this works Joe.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I said "our" share, not my share.
    ah, channeling mainstream michael again, i see

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Moore On Wealthy People's Money: "That's Not Theirs, That's A National Resource, It's Ours"

    keep it coming, comrade

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Call it an educated prediction....We know how this works Joe.


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    It's not that either. It's pure nonsense.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    oh jeez, here we go again , everyone feel sorry for the poor little rich boy Isnt AMERICA great? everyone gets a vote(as much as this kills you) regardless of income...you want to go back to you have to own property to vote? while your at it, why don't you strip women of the right to vote? then what, only white males who own property can vote? sorry bud, but how much money you have, or how much in taxes you pay, doesnt determine if you get to vote or not, as much as this kills you.
    As I understand it, once the rich have to pay a reasonable amount, they are all leaving the country. One wonders where they will go.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This may surprise you but the debt has nothing to do with money we haven't spent yet.
    no, it's only HOW WE GOT HERE

    LOL!

    e-n-t-i-t-l-e-m-e-n-t-s, engels

    61.6T under, sinking 5.3 per year

    if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally reform our precious programs they will EXPIRE

    because at 61.6 trillion and doubling every 10 years, there's just not enough money in the universe

    mainstream michael moore's sentiments aside

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    As I understand it, once the rich have to pay a reasonable amount, they are all leaving the country. One wonders where they will go.

    first you have to define "Reasonable"


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