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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Facts are good: The reality is that when figuring in all spending, there was no Clinton surplus. The economy did better under Clinton than any other president in my lifetime, and reduced the deficit by more than any other president, but overstating what he did just makes it easy for people to dismiss your comments.
    The reality is that Clinton left our budget with a surplus, which bush* wasted no time destroying. wrt "all spending" you can blame Reagan for some of that, and the republican congress for some of the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    what a weenie

    Some of the $1.7 trillion in new revenue in the $4 trillion deal would have been found by counting the expiration of the Bush tax rates for the wealthy, these sources said. Obama had suggested this would not be a tax increase if it were offset by a future promise of tax reform that ultimately lowered all rates, including the rate paid by the wealthiest taxpayers.

    The president also disputed Republicans who have suggested he is looking to immediately raise taxes, saying that what he is proposing would not take effect until 2013.
    Debt-ceiling talks hit brick wall as President Obama, GOP trade jabs - TheHill.com

    it's called caving by degrees

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    bush* started out with a surplus and turned it into a huge deficit.

    Bush, didn't do anything of the sort, the Republican congress, and demo congress that authorized these expenditures. You can't have it both ways, saying that Bush was responsible for spending while he was in office, yet rejecting that Obama is responsible for spending now.

    Further, this reckless spending that repubs in congress did while they had control was a major factor why they lost the majority in '06, yet the Pelosi led congress put spending and corruption on steroids.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The reality is that Clinton left our budget with a surplus, which bush* wasted no time destroying. wrt "all spending" you can blame Reagan for some of that, and the republican congress for some of the rest.
    Debt at end of year:

    1998: $5,478b
    1999: $5,605b
    2000: $5,628b
    2001: $5,769b

    Notice the debt is growing in each year.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Bush, didn't do anything of the sort, the Republican congress, and demo congress that authorized these expenditures. You can't have it both ways, saying that Bush was responsible for spending while he was in office, yet rejecting that Obama is responsible for spending now.

    Further, this reckless spending that repubs in congress did while they had control was a major factor why they lost the majority in '06, yet the Pelosi led congress put spending and corruption on steroids.

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    It was the repubs in congress who passed Medicare D, not bush*. And the rate of increase in govt spending was faster under repubs than under dems
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Debt at end of year:

    1998: $5,478b
    1999: $5,605b
    2000: $5,628b
    2001: $5,769b

    Notice the debt is growing in each year.
    As did inflation, and also be honest here Red, that little thing called recession that started in '99 and increased with the attacks on 9/11 didn't help matters. But it pales in comparison to the Trillions that the Obama WH, and Pelosi congress spent in two short years....

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Bush, didn't do anything of the sort, the Republican congress, and demo congress that authorized these expenditures. You can't have it both ways, saying that Bush was responsible for spending while he was in office, yet rejecting that Obama is responsible for spending now.

    Further, this reckless spending that repubs in congress did while they had control was a major factor why they lost the majority in '06, yet the Pelosi led congress put spending and corruption on steroids.

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    repubs have historically increased the debt faster then dems. That's why 75% of the debt was accumulated under repub presidents

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As did inflation, and also be honest here Red, that little thing called recession that started in '99 and increased with the attacks on 9/11 didn't help matters. But it pales in comparison to the Trillions that the Obama WH, and Pelosi congress spent in two short years....

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    Inflation was at very low levels at that point. The rest of your post did not address anything I said and is just a random collection of typical right wing talking points.
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