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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're not talking about income. We're talking about revenue. if you raise prices beyond what the market can bare, it will result in less overall revenue.
    What can the market bare? They're paying lower taxes. Less proportionately now than under Reagan. Top 1% saw taxes fall too. Shouldn't we have more now? But we don't. People spend less? People ARE spending less, particularly the middle and lower class. What more will we lose if we don't continue to cowtoe in the belief that somehow it's going to come back to us? The market can bear a bit more in tax. We have to spend down. It's time to pay for our lunch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Higher taxes won't grow the economy.
    Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed. bush* cut taxes and the economy sank

    But nevermind the historical facts
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, it did, but nevermind the historical facts.
    Where? The taxes didn't go back up. We're at over 9% unemployment. But don't let present day facts get in your way.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    wrong, real progress is less rightwing nuttery and a more progressive income tax
    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What can the market bare? They're paying lower taxes. Less proportionately now than under Reagan. Top 1% saw taxes fall too. Shouldn't we have more now? But we don't. People spend less? People ARE spending less, particularly the middle and lower class. What more will we lose if we don't continue to cowtoe in the belief that somehow it's going to come back to us? The market can bear a bit more in tax. We have to spend down. It's time to pay for our lunch.
    There's too much uncertainty in the private sector, what with the threat of higher taxes, Obamacare, more government regulation, etc. Until that goes away, the private sector isn't going to invest in anything. Notice how there are two million more unemployed people since the drilling ban? That sent a clear signal to the private sector that the current president isn't afraid to shut down any industry, if it suits him.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Meh. Personally I would not change taxes right now. They are not too high, they are not too low. The economy grows at this rate. Hold steady on taxes, cut spending, let growth take care of the rest.
    What growth?
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed. bush* cut taxes and the economy sank

    But nevermind the historical facts
    The economy didn't sink under Bush. Stop with the lies.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    If you think I'm gonna defend Obama, my advice is "Don't hold your breath"
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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