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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. But tax the poor because they don't "create jobs".
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the real reactionaries are the left whose answer to everything is taxing the rich more and retaining massive idiotic government spending
    the real reactionaries are the right whose answer to everything is tax cuts and retaining massive idiotic government spending
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. But tax the poor because they don't "create jobs".
    what would it mean if the rich weren't getting richer?



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How much do the top 1% control? How much does the top .1% control? That's the question. How much has that percentage changed over time? Have they consolidated more wealth and power at the cost of the middle and lower classes facilitated through laws and beneficial tax payer give aways?

    I don't think that I should pay less, but getting rid of tax loopholes and beneficial definitions so that all income is treated like income isn't that. It's just setting the system straight. If we're going to have income tax, then all income must be considered income and taxed appropriately.
    Who gives a **** about who controls what?? They're the risk takers, the investors, the business owners, they should have every right not to have more than 5/6 of their income stolen by the government.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    The so-called "Radical" change we want is a return to Constitutional restrictions on the Federal Government and a reduction of the Federal Government back to its original mandates.
    ah, so you want to end direct popular election of the Senate?

    you want to put the dollar back on the Gold Standard?

    you want to scrap every Amendment after the Bill of Rights?

    wow.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the real reactionaries are the right whose answer to everything is tax cuts and retaining massive idiotic government spending
    wrong-real progress is more freedom and less governmental control-not a bigger and bigger nanny state



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the real reactionaries are the right whose answer to everything is tax cuts and retaining massive idiotic government spending
    So you cut taxes and spending across the board! Problem solved. And I am not referring to piddly little "symbolic" cuts either. I mean cutting or gutting most domestic spending.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong-real progress is more freedom and less governmental control-not a bigger and bigger nanny state
    then WHY do Cons want less freedom for the American people?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ah, so you want to end direct popular election of the Senate?

    you want to put the dollar back on the Gold Standard?

    you want to scrap every Amendment after the Bill of Rights?

    wow.
    getting rid of the 16th and 17th amendments would probably be the single best way (if it were possible) to get rid of the massive deficits we have now

    and the supreme court upholding its line of cases that terminated with Schechter Poultry



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ah, so you want to end direct popular election of the Senate?
    And give that back to the states?? YES!!

    you want to put the dollar back on the Gold Standard?
    to force the government to live within its means, just like everyone else.

    you want to scrap every Amendment after the Bill of Rights?
    Especially the 16th Amendment.

    wow.
    Thank you.


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