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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Oh please! From the Leftwingnut indoctrination at the Universities and the counterculture of the 1960s to today, Liberalism has been a cancerous sore on America.
    without Liberalism, women would not have the right to vote, blacks would still be slaves, Unions would be illegal, and the environment would be a garbage dump.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    Right. Or because midterm voters are lazy and the far right managed to energize their base.
    Exactly and that's often the case during midterms,the D's failed to turn out the vote. Some of this may be due to buyer's remorse but midterms in general are difficult. The Republicans and especially the Tea Party, had the energy and the momentum. They expected more from Obama,after all,he had two whole years to solve our problems that were inherited from the eight year BA. The BA never saw a spending bill they didn't like or he would have vetoed them.
    "Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. " - George Orwell

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I want to eliminate a lot of the federal government programs

    but since you are so keen for tax hikes why don't you start with people who clearly are not paying near their fair share

    and fair share is not based on your "ability" to pay but what you get in value
    So you DO want to increase taxes!

    If you won't even stand for your own principles, you'll fall for anything
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    he "gets it"
    "we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we get it, and this is going to be a business friendly state"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    without Liberalism, women would not have the right to vote, blacks would still be slaves, Unions would be illegal, and the environment would be a garbage dump.
    Without Conservatism, there would be no thriving private sector, no rich people, no lifestyle we enjoy.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What do you mean who cares? It goes to show the ratio. Let's say the top 1% pay 40% of taxes, but control over 80% of the overall US wealth. That's a ****ing deal man. I would take that in a heart beat. But if it's more like the top 1% pay 40% of taxes but control 20% of the overall US wealth, then they're getting boned.

    See, the "who cares" piece is why your arguments are partisan garbage. "Don't ask how much they have, how many laws allowed the even .1% consolidate more power and wealth; just go with it and don't ask questions.". It's idiotic. Of course how much they control is proportional to how much they pay, it's a progressive tax scale. You want to hide how much they make. The fact of the matter is that the very top have reaped benefit of many laws and subsidies and tax payer give away. They can pay for that privilege. Else, all income is treated like income and no one gets special rules and tax loopholes/

    It is supposed to be income based, but when the top .1% can redefine their income as different things to get lower tax rates, that's a different ballgame. So let's say the tax is based on income. Income is income, it all gets taxed at the same rate.
    do the top 1 percent make 40% of income NO

    do the top 1 percent USE FORTY PERCENT of the services paid for by the FIT and 100% of the services paid for by the death tax

    NO

    why do you believe you should pay for less than you use just because you are not talented enough to make top one percent income?



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    One word:Taiwan!!
    Taiwan is a highly regulated economy.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    "we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we get it, and this is going to be a business friendly state"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo
    I just love how the Unions are circling the wagons over Cuomo right now. They are completely out of touch with the realities of New York's fiscal situation.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you DO want to increase taxes!

    If you won't even stand for your own principles, you'll fall for anything
    seems like spamming to me
    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you want to increase taxes?

    If you won't stand up for you own principles, they must not be worth anything



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Without Conservatism, there would be no thriving private sector, no rich people, no lifestyle we enjoy.
    There aren't any conservatives in the US. The americans who mistakenly call themselves conservatives all support radical change. There's nothing conservative about them
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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