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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Got any proof of that? What's your timeline on who submitted their budget proposals? Remember: President Obama submitted his budget in early February, 2011. When did Paul Ryan and House Republicans submit theirs?

    Also, as I stated in an ealier post to this thread, per the GOP Pledge to America, their baseline for spending cuts was $1 billion/per year. Seems to me the President's original budget proposal would have netted them just over their baseline benchmark. And yet they rejected the offer.
    Republicans submitted theirs right after taking control of Congress in January 2011. When did they have the power to submit one prior? Ryan's plan was much higher than 1.1 trillion in spending cuts.

    Yes, debt service is around 200 billion a year with these low interest rates, 1.1 trillion divided by 10 = 110 billion

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I understand that when the GOP was in the Executive in the 1980s and 1990s, the Democrats lied about making the cuts. You have acknowledged that. You are being totally disingenuous in ignoring that fact when you make your faulty comments. A little context helps.
    There's nothing honest or accurate about claiming "It's the dems fault" while assigning no blame to the republicans.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No, I will not always ignore. Some are lost and will never be found. I don't write for their benefit. I write for the benefit of others. I always have and I always will.
    That is good advice, thanks

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, then your comment is meaningless with regards to this discussion. If you wish to talk about Jesus and God, I would suggest you take it to the Religious threads here. There it would be meaningful.
    My comment was responsive to the post I responded to. Not my fault that some have problems following the thread.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The deficits under the dem president went down.
    not recently

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, the republicans only SAY they want to dramatically cut spending, but when the President offered to do so, the repubs ran out of the room like a bunch of schoolgirls with a spider in their hair
    Ah, more lies by Dems. Got it. You want the GOP to fall for them again. No thanks.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know this as you told me the democrat controlled congress excused Bush as everything was their fault.
    characteristically incoherent

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Congress was totally controlled by the Democrats from January 2007 to January 2011 when the Republicans took over the House. The budget was due prior to October 2010 but democrats didn't want to prevent one because of the election. Democrats could have addressed the current debt crisis anytime in 2009 or 2010 so where was the Obama leadership to push Congress for a plan?
    His "push" came in the annual State of the Union address...same as it's always been for every President since the Constitution was ratified. If Congress failed to act expediantly or efficiently, I blame Congress moreso than I do the President. However, like you, I would have liked to have seen him emphasize a sense of urgency more. But how quickly folks forget that Congress was more focused on short-term budget negotiations than long-term budget plans. I'd say Congress kinda had their hands full. But I will agree that had Congress acted sooner (in 2008/2009), maybe there wouldn't have been such a sense of urgency by the time the 112th Congress came into session.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I do think that the governator and the presidunce had more influence over the economy than a mayor
    aren't you the guy who things the right wing destroyed detroit?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Ah, more lies by Dems. Got it. You want the GOP to fall for them again. No thanks.
    So much for compromise from the right.

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