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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    bush* was president. He signed it.

    So it was Obamas' fault
    You have to love these guys.....Obama is responsible for all of Bush's failures.
    Clinton is responsible for the worst attack on our country that occurred on Bush's watch....oh...and Bush deserves credit for capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden despite the fact that he didn't really spend any time thinking about him or going after him.

    Its all gamemanship to the wingers.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    1) a budget has two sides to it
    2) deal with both sides
    1. it's 61.6 trillion, growing by 5.3 per year

    2. there's just not enough revenue available in the universe

    U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

    reform medicaid---NOW---or watch it die

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    /facepalm


    Democrats control the purse strings, Obama was one of those democrats. and it's still going up up up....
    Have you gone to Recovery.org to see exactly where those Stimulus dollars are going towards in your state or around the country? Maybe you should....you might either be pleasantly surprised or royally offended. But before you complain, remember this...

    "STATES RIGHTS!"

    PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH

    THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS

    These have been the mantras of the Conservative movement, and yet many complain when things don't seem to be going quite their way when you try to place job growth where it can be most effective - at the state-level to be funnelled down to the private sector. That's the entire primus behind my poll thread here only too many of you are so damned partisan you can't think straight long enough to get out of your own way and do what's right for the country. Patriots indeed.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So because President's Reagan and Both Bushs spent plenty that gives Obama the right to put that spending on steroids? Obama's 2010 budget was 700 billion more than the Bush 2008 budget. You don't seem to get it, we have a spending problem not a tax problem. It has been posted many times FIT revenue went up AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax cuts but in your world you have no problem raising taxes with 24 plus million unemployed or unemployed Americans and supposedly giving more money to the politicians that have given us a 14.4 trillion dollar debt. That doesn't make any sense and is purely the liberal ideology. Have you ever looked at the budget of the United States? Try it some times and tell me why the Federal Govt. spends as much as it does and what can be cut and do that before buying the political rhetoric that we need more taxes.

    When you have a budget problem do you first find a way to raise more revenue or do you check what expenses can be cut? Stop with the ideological rants and think.
    Obama hasn't put spending steroids, that's a fallacious argument, however Bush 43 did put spending on steroids - big time. Bush's last budget was 2009, not 2008 as you keep saying. The reason tax revenues went up after Reagan's tax adjustments was inflation that started in earnest during Ford's administration got worse during Carter's and partially through Reagan's administration. Wages were so low by comparison they had to be raised by the nation's employers. Higher wages mean more tax revenue for the government. Reagan gave the biggest tax breaks to the wealthy - the top marginal rate was lowered from 70% to 50%.

    The only spending problem we have is around the military industrial complex.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    I've told you this before, I'm not reading every article you throw at me. But it's common sense that if your business is suffering losses, you don't just cut your expenses, you look at ways to increase your revenue as well. This is seriously Business 101. Are you arguing that I'm not correct?
    I'm not sure he always read those either. So I wouldn't worry about it.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Is it unreasonable to ask for some tax hikes if you've already put $4 trillion in spending cuts on the table?
    Most definitely, it is unreasonable.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You have to love these guys.....Obama is responsible for all of Bush's failures.
    Clinton is responsible for the worst attack on our country that occurred on Bush's watch....oh...and Bush deserves credit for capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden despite the fact that he didn't really spend any time thinking about him or going after him.

    Its all gamemanship to the wingers.
    What does that have to do with the Tread topic although did Obama support TARP? Did Obama spend the 350 billion left him by Bush? You really do hate Republicans, don't you? Interesting coming from someone in a city with 11.9% unemployment and a state run by Democrats that have a similar unemployment rate

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure he always read those either
    LOL!

    says the link challenged 60 second clicker who cites the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD on behalf of school teachers in new york

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