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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Translation:Sell out their principles and cave in. Sorry, but that dog doesn't hunt here. The GOP needs to stand firm!
    yep, thats it, exactly... protect those donors/contributors

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Some of the rich who are not quite rich enough pay a lot in taxes. Once you get rich enough, you're tax rate goes down because the laws are set for the very rich to use many forms of tax loophole to not pay tax on it. As such, income is income. It should all be treated the same.
    well that is a generalization that is both inaccurate and often silly

    1) most of those targeted for big tax hikes are not the super wealthy so many of the dems and the populists whine about

    2) capital gains are taxed less for everyone if they are long term. jacking up capital gains only retards investment in US industry. You are just mad that some of the very richest people mostly have CG income which is not a just reason to jack up the rates because you are upset that some billionaires pay a lower overall rate than high salaried upper middle class professionals

    3) dividend income is often taxed twice so maybe there should be no taxes whatsoever at the corporate level if you truly want dividend income taxed the same as other income

    4) you have made no rational argument why different forms of income should be taxed the same other than your tacit admission you don't have much investment income and you are envious of those who do. that is not a sound basis for tax policy

    5) the rich already pay far more of the tax burden even with all these claimed loopholes you whine about. in reality , the real loophole is allowing those-because they have so many more votes than the rich, to pay artificially low tax rates subsidized by the rich



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Guess it's time to write my President and tell him he has my full support, and he best not blink.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's time to get past the partisan bickering and work on a solution for the whole of us. And part of that is trying to get our debt back in control. Which at this point will entail both spending cuts and tax raises. We allowed the government to operate in this frivolous mode, it's time to pay the piper. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
    Well said, Ikari. Both sides are being petulant here. The Democrats, like addicts, can't give up their entitlements. The Republicans, like children, refuse to pay for the bill they've run up. It's pathetic.

    And it's why I was wrong and you were right all along about the Republocrat thing. There really is no lesser of two evils.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    yep, thats it, exactly... protect those donors/contributors
    Pot Meet Kettle...Kettle, Pot.
    The Demwads do the same with their union thugs and the *cough* George Soros, et al. *cough* other idiots, so don't even go there. We are wasting way too much money on domestic spending.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Guess it's time to write my President and tell him he has my full support, and he best not blink.
    Ain't my president. Never will be.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Guess it's time to write my President and tell him he has my full support, and he best not blink.
    I'd rather that he blink, frankly. It's much too dire to play games. If the Republicans want to hold United States' credit rating hostage to get their way, so be it. It's too important to mess around.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Well said, Ikari. Both sides are being petulant here. The Democrats, like addicts, can't give up their entitlements. The Republicans, like children, refuse to pay for the bill they've run up. It's pathetic.

    And it's why I was wrong and you were right all along about the Republocrat thing. There really is no lesser of two evils.
    1.4 TRILLION on the table. If the Republicans want entitlements, then they can blink. Other than that, they can just eat **** and die.

    No respect left. None.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I'd rather that he blink, frankly. It's much too dire to play games. If the Republicans want to hold United States' credit rating hostage to get their way, so be it. It's too important to mess around.
    I already wrote him. I feel much better.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Ain't my president. Never will be.
    you live in this country, he is your president

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