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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Note how the debt piles up under republican presidents who cut taxes..
    don't you get it yet??

    its totally OK for GOPers and Cons to raise the national debt.

    its only bad when Democrats and Liberals do it.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Democrats had the Presidency, the Senate and the Congress for TWO years and failed to pass a budget. Obama proposed his own goofy budget and it was defeated 97-0.

    You want Republicans to pass a budget? Vote for them in the next election.
    The republicans had the presiduncy, the house, the senate and spending exploded, along with a doubling of the national debt.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    coincidence and correlation are different things and inertia and momentum are factors the left often ignore



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They'll do it for a number of reasons. If companies can make more money elsewhere, given the right opportunities and incentives, they'll move. That's just what people do as well.
    They do it to get cheap labor. Elitist rightwingers love cheap labor because they hate the working class
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what really goes against what America was founded on is 47% of the voters not paying any federal income taxes .
    Umm, when the US was formed, 100% of the voters paid no federal income taxes.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They do it to get cheap labor. Elitist rightwingers love cheap labor because they hate the working class
    more stupidity. where has anyone of the right stated they hated the working class. If anyone is despised by the right its those who are the non-working class who expect others to fund their existence.



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    senior senator from the slasher's home state and sitting senate WHIP, june 8:

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Durbin: This Is Obama's Economy Now

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, when the US was formed, 100% of the voters paid no federal income taxes.
    and no one was sucking up the wealth of others as redistributed by the government. That you missed that fact is not surprising. the point was America was not based on a society where almost half of the population was sucking on the public tit



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are not being honest many of those who are not paying federal income taxes have disposable income.
    Yes, those would be the ones that extra expenditures would throw into welfare. I prefer people working and paying all their other taxes than placing them on welfare, but that's just me.

    And those with high incomes are paying a smaller effective tax than the working class. What is your point.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the problem with this rant is that you make idiotic assumptions--I don't know any wealthy people who are against paying a fair share based on any OBJECTIVE assessment. right now the richest 1-5% of the population pay far more than their fair share based on any OBJECTIVE assessment

    if you use share of income the top 1 percent pay almost 40% of the income tax burden (and almost all the death tax burden) yet make 22% of the income and certainly do not have 100% of the "estate" wealth

    if its based on use of government services no one can honestly claim that 40% of what the income tax funds is directed to the top one percent

    so the problem is your definition of "fair share" is a punitive amount that is neither honest nor realistic

    so you Joe Hillesque psychobabble might resonate with those who are mad that they aren't rich but it has no objective reality
    the problem with rightwing rants is that they make idiotic assumptions--I don't know any wealthy rightwingers who are for paying a fair share based on any assessment. right now the richest 1-5% of the population pay far less than their fair share based on any OBJECTIVE assessment

    Because they're so deluded by their corporate masters, the rightwing thinks that income taxes are the only taxes that exist. The rest of the population realizes that there are also capital gains, sales taxes, and corporate taxes, which the right never wants to talk about because they know how these taxes are slanted towards their corporate masters

    if its based on use of government services no rightwinger can explain how to do this, even if they obsessively promote it at every opportunity. There's even a thread that invites the rightwingers to explain how this would work, and none of the wingnuts would stand up and support their own proposal.

    so the problem is your definition of "fair share" is an apologia for the rich elitists who love to suck on the public teat

    so your unhinged psychobabble might resonate with those who are mad that they dont own everything but it has no objective reality
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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