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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Once tyranny begins it always ends poorly. Will we see walls built to keep us in Nobama's paradise?
    Many believe that the rich and corporations exist to fund the needs of others and when a corporation or a wealthy person moves away to avoid being looted, the parasites and their panderers claim that such a movement is "betrayal"

    that is one reason why the left abhors states rights and want a huge federal government-if welfare and other handouts were left to the states as the founders intended, any state that became too greedy would quickly go bankrupt as the wealthy would leave as the dependents and welfare addicts would swarm in.

    it would keep any one or a few states from becoming too generous to the non-producers and too hostile to the earners. the left despises such a system and wants the federal government to impose redistribution nationally



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, labeling a president a Marxist is expressing a belief, but changing a person's post is committed only by the most dishonest and dishonorable among us.
    Neither really accomplishes anything IMO. But then again, perhaps most things accomplish nothing.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Changing someone elses post does rank right up there with labeling a president a Marxist.
    I disagree-one is clearly dishonest, the other might well be honestly believed.



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let's be realisitic. The govt will never willingly divest itself of power, not even a little bit....
    As long as the 2 party system keeps handing us poor choices to vote for, the status quo will remain.
    It would be less of a problem if there were still state rights, as was originally intended.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I can see where that could be amusing. It seems that those who don't give in to the demands of government are 'greedy'.

    What about the intent of the post? Are you in disagreement?
    Hey, I recognized it as a typo. I would think you'd have a real complaint if I didn't.

    The rest is nonsense. No party wants to stop illegals. If they did, it would be stopped. The laws to do so are already on the books. You could go complete republican party, not one democrat in office, and tens years from now, the problem would still be there. You guys put a lot of stock in talk, but seem to never see what actions, or lack there of, have ever been taken. The wealthy, especially the top 1% who a good deal of the country, are not abused and are not hurting. Whining for them is not really a productive, and you might find a good number of people making a good living, 250, 000 or more a year, really like illegals. If they weren't providing jobs for them, illegals wouldn't be here in the numbers they are.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It would be less of a problem if there were still state rights, as was originally intended.
    No. It wouldn't. Again, there is really nothing more than lip service to anyone actually wanting to solve the problem, especially in the states. Those who make money, want cheap labor. As long as that is true, there will be a place here for illegals.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I disagree-one is clearly dishonest, the other might well be honestly believed.
    Anyone who honestly buys into that type of thinking needs a helmet.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Neither really accomplishes anything IMO. But then again, perhaps most things accomplish nothing.
    Rather a nihilist comment, but also untrue.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Allowing a national default is equivalent to a national dine-and-dash. Whatever you think of the decision that led to your bill, you still have to pay for it.
    I don't think many are aware, or will acknowledge, that the debt ceiling issue is about paying our past spending obligations. They think it has to do with future spending.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Neither really accomplishes anything IMO. But then again, perhaps most things accomplish nothing.
    I agree with you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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