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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    it all depends on what freedoms you value most
    aint that the truth, thales

    which is why, given their druthers, they'd rather be WORKING IN TEXAS

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    What Catawba said is precisely accurate. These are temporary tax cuts set to expire. The question is not whether to keep taxes as they are or raise them. The question is whether to allow the tax cuts to expire as intended or extend the tax cuts.
    Let's make the tax rates permanent. Just as it is easy for politicians to cling to power by giving temporary tax rate changes, so it is easy to change our intention and make the tax rates lower permanently.

    Then let's begin taxing the 47% (or whatever the actual number is) who do not pay federal income taxes.
    Then let's eliminate every department that is extra-constitutional. Let's fire the people, sell off the furniture, sell the buildings and the lands. Repeal the extra-constitutional regulations.
    Then let's sell off the massive holdings of federal lands.

    For starters. Next week we can think of some more things to do to divest the federal government of its enormous power.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is time to walk away. Just let the one term Marxist, Kenyan, Muslim, non-citizen president Obama deal with the results of no deal.
    fixed that for ya.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Let's make the tax rates permanent. Just as it is easy for politicians to cling to power by giving temporary tax rate changes, so it is easy to change our intention and make the tax rates lower permanently.

    Then let's begin taxing the 47% (or whatever the actual number is) who do not pay federal income taxes.
    Then let's eliminate every department that is extra-constitutional. Let's fire the people, sell off the furniture, sell the buildings and the lands. Repeal the extra-constitutional regulations.
    Then let's sell off the massive holdings of federal lands.

    For starters. Next week we can think of some more things to do to divest the federal government of its enormous power.
    Let's be realisitic. The govt will never willingly divest itself of power, not even a little bit....
    As long as the 2 party system keeps handing us poor choices to vote for, the status quo will remain.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    aint that the truth, thales

    which is why, given their druthers, they'd rather be WORKING IN TEXAS
    How does your post have to do with what you quoted?
    Last edited by MusicAdventurer; 07-18-11 at 08:24 PM.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Good....I hope that you are right.
    Me too.
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And the Party of NO will pay dearly for their incompetence and childishness. The American people expect Congress to work to find solutions....all that the GOP is offering is continuning to be the party of No ideas.
    So which party in power has filed to pass a budget for the last two years? Democrats in the Senate? And which party has passed a budget, on time? Republicans in the House.

    I think the Republicans should just walk away. Let the one term Marxist president Obama come to them with a plan, in writing. Reject it if it increases tax rates on the people who are already paying. Let him come with another plan. Reject it if it fails to cut the 25% growth in government we have experienced since this regime took control. Repeat until we have a good deal. Or walk away from any deal.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Me too.

    So which party in power has filed to pass a budget for the last two years? Democrats in the Senate? And which party has passed a budget, on time? Republicans in the House.

    I think the Republicans should just walk away. Let the one term Marxist president Obama come to them with a plan, in writing. Reject it if it increases tax rates on the people who are already paying. Let him come with another plan. Reject it if it fails to cut the 25% growth in government we have experienced since this regime took control. Repeat until we have a good deal. Or walk away from any deal.
    It that kind of thinking that is going to get us nowhere!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Sorry, this doesn't even qualify for a response.
    sangha is childish. I no longer respond to him. It works for me. When I see his posts I just pass them by. I haven't lost a thing in the process.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Just because you don't know the meaning of something, that doesnt make it meaningless

    And the selfish rich aren't moving to other countries. They're just moving OUR jobs overseas.

    Haven't you heard?
    Sure they'll move their companies to other countries, and are doing so. As well, they're moving too. I meet them regularly.

    It happened to the UK, it happened in Canada and now it's happening in the States. It's been going on since taxes were invented.

    Maybe that should be taught in schools.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I have to say, I was very troubled today to learn that we pay our debt-interest obligations..with loans!!!

    that ain't sustainable.
    It works great right now... we constantly roll over short term loans at rock bottom (artificially low) interest rates. But when interest rates start to rise (and they have nowhere else to go), that's a whole 'nother story. A quick swing upward could be disasterous. Needless to say, the White House budget predictions for the next decade assume these historically low rates will continue for another 10 years. If they were to go back to average or above average levels, it could add 500bil to 1tril to the yearly deficit. At that point, "slashing" spending won't just be rhetoric.

    In a way, we resemble a lot of Americans from just a few years ago... we're sitting in a nice big house on a 2% ARM, knee deep in debt, and are arguing about whether we should sell the patio furniture or pull in a few extra hours at work to make ends meet in the short term... Assuming of course that we'll soon be pulling in the big bucks, long before that loan adjusts.

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