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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    A lower "effective" tax rate?

    That is a meaningless term.

    Of course businesses and people will go elsewhere if the taxes are too high, just as they have been doing for many years now.

    Haven't you heard?
    Just because you don't know the meaning of something, that doesnt make it meaningless

    And the selfish rich aren't moving to other countries. They're just moving OUR jobs overseas.

    Haven't you heard?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not put up a concrete wall so they can't escape? Perhaps have a few armed guards watching. with orders to shoot to kill, in case any of 'the rich' try to leave.

    That should work.
    I say let them leave. I believe in freedom. You are free to believe otherwise

    It's the rightwingers who want to put a wall up on our border

    Haven't you heard?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not put up a concrete wall so they can't escape? Perhaps have a few armed guards watching. with orders to shoot to kill, in case any of 'the rich' try to leave.

    That should work.
    As noted earlier, the countries they have to choose from to go and continue to exploit aren't that great anyway ... not many countries have tax rates like the U.S. ... I don't think we have to worry too much (perhaps I am underestimating their greed?)

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I say let them leave. I believe in freedom. You are free to believe otherwise

    It's the rightwingers who want to put a wall up on our border

    Haven't you heard?
    I think there are many ways to keep the wealthy in our country, other than lowering the taxes on the wealthy and expecting the middle class to shoulder the weight and besides taxing those who have nothing to give. There are many policies that can be made that would discourage leaving (not that they have a huge incentive to leave anyway)

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    many of the far right persuasion think our debt just came about during the last 2 and a half years.
    nonsense

    our current situation is the culmination of generations of demographic inevitabilities

    ie, it never had a chance

    bottom line, bright children, left and right, know it

    U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

    if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally restructure our budgets, then our big 3 federal programs (and state pensions too) will simply not be there in their present form for our next generation

    it's going on three years since the party in power in the us senate passed a budget---in times like these
    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Maybe we would be better off passing a constiutional amendment that says if the republicans keep piling up debt, the republican members of Congress can take no pay or benefits, or campaign contriubtions for the next year and their campaign expenditure must be cut by the amount of the deficit from the previous year.
    fantasize much?

    in public?

    dream on, mitty

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The US is a low tax nation
    vote obama, 2012!

    you're a low tax nation!

    LOL!

    dang, this is gonna be easy

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But the equal distribution of greed is not what's at play here. Those with less want an equal distribution, in fact more than an equal distribution, from those who have more. It is the mob, being encouraged by unscrupulous politicians, wanting something for nothing.
    I disagree. What is at play is nothing more or less than the payment of a debt owed. In order to pay the debt we need a compromise on the budget.

    Ad hominems such as "the mob" are not helpful. They do not move the football forward. This is not the time for getting bogged down in ideological conflict. This is a time to be pragmatic. We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately (economically speaking).

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    Just because you don't know the meaning of something, that doesnt make it meaningless

    And the selfish rich aren't moving to other countries. They're just moving OUR jobs overseas.

    Haven't you heard?
    they're not "your" jobs. they belong to the people who create them. if you make it too expensive and difficult for them to create them over here, guess what? they will do so elsewhere.

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