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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    It is a lie to say that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy caused the deficit. Here are the actual facts:

    Following is a breakdown on some of the key measures and their costs, based on revenue estimates from the Joint Committee on Taxation, unless otherwise noted.

    Bush tax cuts: $544.3 billion. The package would extend the Bush tax cuts for everyone for two years.

    The bulk of that cost -- $463 billion -- is for the extension of cuts for families making less than $250,000, including two years of relief for 2010 and 2011 for the middle class from the Alternative Minimum Tax.

    The rest -- $81.5 billion -- is attributable to the extension of cuts that apply to the highest income families.

    The cost of extending all the tax cuts over 10 years would have been $3.7 trillion.


    Source: Bush tax cut deal and surprise stimulus - what they cost - Dec. 7, 2010

    As you can see, if the Bush tax cuts increased the deficit, the increase came primarily from tax cuts for the non-"wealthy." As you can see, I have chosen a highly conservative news organization for my numbers. NOT!
    There you go-posting facts in the face of emotobabbling class envy nonsense



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Read my lips!! All politicians lie

    Only the hyper partisans would try to deny it
    As I said, we know that Democrats have lied and you agree with that. There is no reason to trust the Democrats with any effort to raise taxes. It should be a non-starter.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Funniest. Response. Evah!
    Well, you have to admit that your response was purely gibberish.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong again. SS reduces the budget deficit. That's why the rightwing wants to kill SS
    Not really. It builds up a huge stack of unfunded mandates.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    As I said, we know that Democrats have lied and you agree with that. There is no reason to trust the Democrats with any effort to raise taxes. It should be a non-starter.
    Are you seriously implying that Republicans or Independents, or any party, group of people or person does not lie or has not been dishonest at one point or another? Seriously?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    It is a lie to say that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy caused the deficit. Here are the actual facts:

    Following is a breakdown on some of the key measures and their costs, based on revenue estimates from the Joint Committee on Taxation, unless otherwise noted.

    Bush tax cuts: $544.3 billion. The package would extend the Bush tax cuts for everyone for two years.

    The bulk of that cost -- $463 billion -- is for the extension of cuts for families making less than $250,000, including two years of relief for 2010 and 2011 for the middle class from the Alternative Minimum Tax.

    The rest -- $81.5 billion -- is attributable to the extension of cuts that apply to the highest income families.

    The cost of extending all the tax cuts over 10 years would have been $3.7 trillion.


    Source: Bush tax cut deal and surprise stimulus - what they cost - Dec. 7, 2010

    As you can see, if the Bush tax cuts increased the deficit, the increase came primarily from tax cuts for the non-"wealthy." As you can see, I have chosen a highly conservative news organization for my numbers. NOT!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I've already provided documention to show the total amount of cuts. The average total cuts for the rich was $58,000 per year per household. The avereage total cut for the middle class was just a little over $1,000 per year per household.
    I understand that English is often difficult to understand. That's okay. I have now posted the numbers. Have a nice day!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and those who constantly whine about the rich are really pissing on themselves with the urine of defeat. Populist rantings are useless-why not tell us what your alternative to the alleged trickle down system is
    and those who constantly whine about the poor are really pissing on themselves with the urine of greed. Elitist rantings are useless
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you believe that it was the tax cuts which were primarily for the non-"wealthy" that raised the deficits?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    As I said, we know that Democrats have lied and you agree with that. There is no reason to trust the Democrats with any effort to raise taxes. It should be a non-starter.
    As I said, everyone but the hyper partisans know that the republicans lie too, but you can't admit that. There is no reason to trust any politicians but the hyper partisans on the right think IOKIYAR
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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