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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    HE created this mess? Obama may just be another Bush clone, but the mess didn't start with him, he just went on precedent from government and made things worse. The Republocrats got us into this mess, it's high time the lot of them do their god damned job. Quit pandering to some elite class of douchebags and do what's right by the American people.
    The American people voted for the GOP in November based upon their no new tax pledges.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We're not talking about the poor bastards who are only sorta rich, we're talking Buffet level wealth. There should be no designation such as capital gains. All income is income and should be taxes appropriately.
    I've not seen that suggested, have you? Geithner would have a conniption if the Dems proposed this.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We're not talking about the poor bastards who are only sorta rich, we're talking Buffet level wealth. There should be no designation such as capital gains. All income is income and should be taxes appropriately.
    that sounds good an appeals to class envy and those who don't have the wherewithall to make investments but when you strip away the BS its just plain stupid to jack up taxes on long term capital gains



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if you are not willing to compromise on taxes, then you are not compromising on anything if you are a republican....the administration has put everything on the table, has been willing to do a deal that is DOUBLE, 4 trill, that the repubs want no part of....sad to see the talks going in this direction, but good on obama for growing a set and telling the repubs to piss off.
    so you think all government spending is good and cannot be cut? as I noted compromise should be the GOP allowing cuts in some of their pet projects and the dems the same

    and the rich already pay too much tax-if anyone's taxes need to be raised its the slackers who vote more and more spending without paying for it



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    check out the ordasity in cpwills post what it was meant to be a retort too...and why do people LIKE YOU think people with money should be able to just screw whoever they want when they want and your song and dance that the middle class pay no tax is horse****...
    more populist drivel

    you assume people more prosperous and industrious than you are somehow able to screw the ne'er do wells, the unambitious and the untalented.

    The top 1 percent pay almost 40 percent of the income tax. The top 5% pay more income taxes and death taxes than the rest of the country. where do you get off claiming that those people don't pay enough? its people like you who aren't carrying your share of the load



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, he didn't. he offered up 3 trillion in cuts and 1 trillion in tax hikes - the problem being that many of those "cuts" were nothing of the sort.
    Ok, so 3 trillion isn't enough for the GOP to give just a little itty bit on revenue? Are you one of those that thinks negotiating means one side gets everything they want?


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It was just a few months ago, at the state of the union address, that Obama called for a "revenue neutral corporate tax reduction." Now he wants to raise taxes on oil and private planes (7.5% of GDP) in a blatant political gesture to make the republicans "the party of the rich."

    Can we believe anything this man says?
    The GOP needs no help in that dept. Every time they open their mouths they make it known that they're the party for the rich.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    They should lock the President, House and Senate up somewhere and not let them touch base or get feed back from anybody. No media. Vote. Vote again. Vote some more. No agreement? Too bad, so sad. You're not leaving that room.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Raising taxes isn't going to solve the deficit.
    Not according to the bipartisan debt commission. Do you know something that they don't? Please share.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think all government spending is good and cannot be cut? as I noted compromise should be the GOP allowing cuts in some of their pet projects and the dems the same

    and the rich already pay too much tax-if anyone's taxes need to be raised its the slackers who vote more and more spending without paying for it
    if you would have paid attention to anything i have posted, you wouldnt have asked that question, i support spending cuts, i have said several times that there can be no sacred cows, and that EVERYTHING needs to be on the table, i have also stated that tax increases need to be part of the solution. and please spare me the spiel of how you are taxed to much.

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