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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Good idea, many of the far right persuasion think our debt just came about during the last 2 and a half years. Most of those also were for our two unfunded ME wars and tax cuts for the wealthy.

    Perhaps you have the chart showing years 2008-2011?
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

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    Teabaggers, not teabaggees....you got it right
    You know I love ya, Jerry, but they're the same people

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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Erod, I hate to say this, but liblady is correct. The American people, by and large, are irresponsible people. They do not spend their own money within their means. That are sadly up to their eyeballs in debt. And, they have not saved enough money for retirement. Frugality, self-discipline, self-sufficiency, and personal responsiblity are no longer the AMERICAN way. And, our Congressmen are no different. It's truly a sad state of affairs, but liblady is correct.
    indeed, both of my rabid right wing brothers-in-law won't ever be able to retire.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Why should anyone pay higher taxes because the Federal Government has been irresponsible? That's like saying that we should take money away from parents if their teenagers spend too much. Is this how you raised or plan to raise your teenagers?

    Maybe we would be better off passing a constiutional amendment that says if the budget is not balanced in a given year, the President, Vice President, and members of Congress can take no pay or benefits, or campaign contriubtions for the next year and expenditure must be cut by the amount of the deficit from the previous year. We need to discipline the right party.
    Why should the rich pay lower taxes because they have been so irresponsible? That's like saying that we should give money to alcoholics because they blacked out and lost their savings. Is this how you deal with those who are drunk on power?

    Maybe we would be better off passing a constiutional amendment that says if the republicans keep piling up debt, the republican members of Congress can take no pay or benefits, or campaign contriubtions for the next year and their campaign expenditure must be cut by the amount of the deficit from the previous year. We need to discipline the rightwing party
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Terrific! Now, how about providing what the amounts of the cuts were in total for the "wealthy" and others? In case I am not clear, what amount did all of the "wealthy" get and how much did all of the others get?
    I've already provided documention to show the total amount of cuts. The average total cuts for the rich was $58,000 per year per household. The avereage total cut for the middle class was just a little over $1,000 per year per household.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    This chart, showing 2008-2011? is it covered in poo or something? why has no one posted it?
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    indeed, both of my rabid right wing brothers-in-law won't ever be able to retire.
    Well, I am pleased to see that your rabid bias had to show on this one. I'll bet that it is rampant between both wings and in the middle, but then again, you already knew this. Pshaw!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The GOP seems to be the only one offering solutions.

    From the Democrat side, we have sweeping generalizations, and we have...

    NObama:
    NO deal that doesn't raise taxes
    NO short term deal to keep the country running
    NO deal that cuts in any way his massive new entitlement
    NO deal that touches rail initiatives... (and on and on)
    The GOP is running away from Obamas sweeping plan to reduce budget deficits. He offered $4trillion is reductions, and the republicans threw a tea tantrum
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why should the rich pay lower taxes because they have been so irresponsible? That's like saying that we should give money to alcoholics because they blacked out and lost their savings. Is this how you deal with those who are drunk on power?

    Maybe we would be better off passing a constiutional amendment that says if the republicans keep piling up debt, the republican members of Congress can take no pay or benefits, or campaign contriubtions for the next year and their campaign expenditure must be cut by the amount of the deficit from the previous year. We need to discipline the rightwing party
    Sorry, this doesn't even qualify for a response.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If Americans want to hurt Big Business then they should not complain when these businesses move. They are certainly being welcomed elsewhere, and with far less onerous corporate taxes.

    If you don't care for big business try to order your computer or a car from the little shop on the corner, but it might be wise to first ask how much it might cost you.
    The US is a low tax nation
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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