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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    indeed, demanding ONLY spending cuts and NO tax-increases, doesn't suggest you are willing to compromise much.
    All Speaker Boehner has to do is walk away. Then there will be no tax increases and the one term Marxist president Obama will have to figure out where to cut his spending. I hope he will roll back the size of government to pre-Obama levels.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And hopefully he will be there alone come August 2nd.

    He created this mess. Let him figure out where to cut.
    HE created this mess? Obama may just be another Bush clone, but the mess didn't start with him, he just went on precedent from government and made things worse. The Republocrats got us into this mess, it's high time the lot of them do their god damned job. Quit pandering to some elite class of douchebags and do what's right by the American people.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    All Speaker Boehner has to do is walk away. Then there will be no tax increases and the one term Marxist president Obama will have to figure out where to cut his spending. I hope he will roll back the size of government to pre-Obama levels.
    I'd hope they'd roll back the government to pre-Clinton levels, maybe even pre-Reagan levels. But when's the last time government cut itself? It ain't emo.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So in order to save the super rich some money by obstructing the removal of loopholes, the Republicans are saviors. Where as Obama is wrong because in an era of extreme spending and deficit where we may actually have to start paying for the friviolous spending of our government, raising taxes and cutting spending is unreasonable? I think it's kinda sick to hold the entire economy and most of America hostage to protect an elite class taking advantages of tax loopholes. But whatever.
    What tax loopholes do folks making 200 grand a year enjoy that make them, "super rich"?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What tax loopholes do folks making 200 grand a year enjoy that make them, "super rich"?
    We're not talking about the poor bastards who are only sorta rich, we're talking Buffet level wealth. There should be no designation such as capital gains. All income is income and should be taxes appropriately.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    "Raising taxes in a recession is the last thing you want to do." - President Barack Obama



    we are willing to compromise on plenty. whatever the President wants to cut, we'll cut. but raising taxes will not bring in any revenue, it will hurt the country's struggling economy, and it's not a political possibility. we might as well demand that Obama pass the Ryan Plan, and then accuse him of refusing to compromise when he doesn't.



    At best, Obama wants to hike taxes, but doesn't want the blame for it, so he wants to make Republicans his enablers. At worst, Obama knows that this won't pass the House, and so he wants to go past the Aug 2 deadline to see how much he can scare the American public about the "eeeeevil Wepubwicans" [/Elmer Fudd Voice].
    if you are not willing to compromise on taxes, then you are not compromising on anything if you are a republican....the administration has put everything on the table, has been willing to do a deal that is DOUBLE, 4 trill, that the repubs want no part of....sad to see the talks going in this direction, but good on obama for growing a set and telling the repubs to piss off.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ordasity? why do people like you label anyone who is in the top 2% "greedsters"? They probably are why you have an artificially low federal income tax rate and true greed is demanding others pay more so you don't even have to pay for what you use.
    check out the ordasity in cpwills post what it was meant to be a retort too...and why do people LIKE YOU think people with money should be able to just screw whoever they want when they want and your song and dance that the middle class pay no tax is horse****...

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    "Too little"? He has doubled the number the Republicans initially asked for.

    This Congress sure isn't afraid to move the goal posts, consistency be damned.
    You can't swoop in at the last minute and change things. Obama needed to convince the country that we need massive new taxes. The GOP ran on no new taxes and unlike under Bush Sr. they learned they had better live up to that promise.

    Right now the country is not clamoring for huge new taxes

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    check out the ordasity in cpwills post what it was meant to be a retort too...and why do people LIKE YOU think people with money should be able to just screw whoever they want when they want and your song and dance that the middle class pay no tax is horse****...
    Why? Because the government allows them to. It's not a stretch to believe it when you can look all around and see where they are doing it. How much money did the government give you to sock away for later?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by swizz View Post
    important to remember. Reagan raised it too - more than once.
    what? His holiness ronald reagan raised taxes? lol

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