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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the rich are rich because they somehow cheated peoplethe middle class by not paying their fair share. the market does not give the middle class the salary or wealth they've earned

    when we strip away all the high minded BS about "envy" or entitlement, what we usually find is class warfare
    much bitterness in that nonsense.

    if someone agrees to a wage then they get what they deserve. Nothing is clearer than that. Your silly rants about the rich cheating people is pretty much a giveaway as to what we are dealing with

    plenty of rich people don't really employ others. your whining that those who have done well-be it a doctor, a lawyer, an athlete, an accountant, or an entertainer or small business owner is idiotic. You pretend you know what is a fair wage which is nothing more than envy on your part.



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So now it's a "surcharge"? Whatever...it's not an income tax increase on the rich. And I still don't believe that several states are raising their income tax
    That belief would be false.


    raised state income taxes 2011 - Google Search

    Lots of evidence to the contrary. Illinois in particular raised its rates the most.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the rich are rich because they somehow cheated peoplethe middle class by not paying their fair share. the market does not give the middle class the salary or wealth they've earned

    when we strip away all the high minded BS about "envy" or entitlement, what we usually find is class warfare
    "class warfare" means paying someone worth 8 dollars an hour 8 dollars an hour even if he pretends he is worth 50 an hour.

    If you agree to a wage you are in no position to whine it is unfair



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    That belief would be false.


    raised state income taxes 2011 - Google Search

    Lots of evidence to the contrary. Illinois in particular raised its rates the most.
    You can fill a book with stuff that is false from these tax hikers who hate the industrious.

    the good news is that parasitic states are losing productive people



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    much bitterness in that nonsense.

    if someone agrees to a wage then they get what they deserve. Nothing is clearer than that. Your silly rants about the rich cheating people is pretty much a giveaway as to what we are dealing with

    plenty of rich people don't really employ others. your whining that those who have done well-be it a doctor, a lawyer, an athlete, an accountant, or an entertainer or small business owner is idiotic. You pretend you know what is a fair wage which is nothing more than envy on your part.
    If someone agrees to live in the US, they are subject to our taxes. They pay what we decide they pay. Nothing is clearer than that. The well to do have to pay their fair share. Their desire to have everything and then some is selfish and unamerican
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    That belief would be false.


    raised state income taxes 2011 - Google Search

    Lots of evidence to the contrary. Illinois in particular raised its rates the most.
    The first link on the page that you linked to says

    No other state has successfully raised income taxes to balance its 2011 budget
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    "class warfare" means paying someone worth 8 dollars an hour 8 dollars an hour even if he pretends he is worth 50 an hour.

    If you agree to a wage you are in no position to whine it is unfair
    class warfare means the rich get richer on the backs of the middle class and the poor. If you agree to make money in the US, then you pay your fair share
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If someone agrees to live in the US, they are subject to our taxes. They pay what we decide they pay. Nothing is clearer than that. The well to do have to pay their fair share. Their desire to have everything and then some is selfish and unamerican
    and part of being american is commenting on the parasites who think others should be taxed more because these parasites are lazy or untalented. No one I have met on the top 2% is against paying taxes. What we tire of is listening to parasites who pay no income taxes whining we should pay more

    and one day those who have become addicted to others paying for them are going to get a rude surprise when those who fund their existence say enough is enough.

    right now enough wealthy people support the tax hikers for other reasons-including a desire for more power. that is what keeps this idiotic progressive tax system alive



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    class warfare means the rich get richer on the backs of the middle class and the poor. If you agree to make money in the US, then you pay your fair share
    Class warfare is putting the different social/religious/racial/ethnic/income groups against each other. It doesnt matter who it is.
    Jackboots always come in matched pairs, a left boot and a right boot.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    class warfare means the rich get richer on the backs of the middle class and the poor. If you agree to make money in the US, then you pay your fair share

    class warfare means slandering the industrious with all sorts of moronic claims of "cheating" or "unfairness" and demanding that your pimps (politicians) tax the rich more to make you feel better about your lot in life. Fair share is paying for what you use not based on what you can pay. there is nothing fair involving one man paying more income taxes than 60 million others who can vote his taxes up up and up

    fair is based on what you get, not what you earn



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