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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they move their operations out of U.S. territorial waters, all together and go to a country with fewer over-reaching regulations and out of control taxes, what have you accomplished? Because, if that happens, you've done nothing but screw the United States out of jobs and tax revenue.

    Ultimately, what sense does it make to tax a business on money that it re-invests? That's idiotic, to begin with.
    many on the left think corporations' first duty is to pay taxes and provide jobs and they also engage in the moronic belief that its wrong for a corporation to move when a government squeezes more and more out of it



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    So do you guys think Misterveritis will continue to refer to Obama as 'the one-term president Obama' throughout his second term?
    Only if Obama is elected to a second term, which is very doubtful.

    Not that it has anything to do with the topic.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many on the left think corporations' first duty is to pay taxes and provide jobs and they also engage in the moronic belief that its wrong for a corporation to move when a government squeezes more and more out of it
    It's all about the bull**** notion that corporations have some kind of social responsibility.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In a classical sense, yes. In terms of modern Progressivism, no.

    One needs to learn the difference between Classical Liberalism and Progressivism. They are two very different things.
    left wing american "liberalism" is better deemed reactionary parasitic statism



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    on the upside at least, good on Republican Leadership for getting the memo:


    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) today reiterated his party’s opposition to tax increases in a deal to raise the debt ceiling, arguing it would constitute a violation of the “Pledge to America” that Republicans successfully ran on to win control of the House in 2010.

    “Our members did not come here to raise taxes,” Cantor said. “We’re not asking the president to violate his pledges to the American people, and we wish he wouldn’t ask us to do so.”...


    Boehner: Tax Hikes Never on the Table

    ...Boehner reiterated his position that the debt ceiling “must be raised,” and praised President Obama for “making that case” at a press conference earlier in the day. Tax increases, however, could not realistically be part of the solution. “The American people will not accept, and the House cannot pass, a bill that raises taxes on job creators,” he said. “The House can only pass a debt limit bill that includes spending cuts larger than the hike in the debt limit, as well as real restraints on future spending.”...
    So in order to save the super rich some money by obstructing the removal of loopholes, the Republicans are saviors. Where as Obama is wrong because in an era of extreme spending and deficit where we may actually have to start paying for the friviolous spending of our government, raising taxes and cutting spending is unreasonable? I think it's kinda sick to hold the entire economy and most of America hostage to protect an elite class taking advantages of tax loopholes. But whatever.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ok, important question: will this deal that they are working on mandate spending for whomever is President for the next 10 years?

    how can they tell Congress or the President in 5 years, 8 years, 10 years, how to spend money?

    I don't get it.
    How about a balanced budget amendment?
    How about requiring a 2/3rds supermajority to raise taxes?
    How about an amendment that requires the Congress to affirm that their spending is in support of a Constitutionally enumerated power?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's all about the bull**** notion that corporations have some kind of social responsibility.
    faith based emotobabble substituting for economic reality



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's all about the bull**** notion that corporations have some kind of social responsibility.
    They don't have any real social responsibility. But they also don't have rights. Only individuals possess rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How about a balanced budget amendment?
    How about requiring a 2/3rds supermajority to raise taxes?
    How about an amendment that requires the Congress to affirm that their spending is in support of a Constitutionally enumerated power?
    constitution? they don't need no stinkin constitution!!. remember the general welfare clause means whatever those clowns want, they get



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Giving you everything you want with nothing in return is not compromise. To anyone not looking through ideological colored classes, Obama is right here.
    And hopefully he will be there alone come August 2nd.

    He created this mess. Let him figure out where to cut.

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